Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Agravert/Ferdinand Gravert

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  keep. Ricky81682 (talk) 08:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

User:Agravert/Ferdinand Gravert


Breif bio with no sources that seems to be a name check for his decendent. This was the only thing this user ever did on the site Legacypac (talk) 14:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - draft is completely benign and obviously directed toward an encyclopedic purpose. May fail notability guidelines, but this is irrelevant in userspace. Deleting a good-faith draft with real info for staleness makes no sense. If it must be removed from the stale userspace drafts category, adding to a maintenance category or blank+template are far better options as they take no admin time, allow the draft to be picked back up in the future, and are less disruptive for user. A2soup (talk) 15:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Picked back up? This was created in 2009 by Agravert to namecheck Alex Gravert and is the only thing this user ever did. Oh and there are no sources remember so it could be a hoax. If kept at MfD it will be moved to main as a stub. Legacypac (talk) 18:43, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I do not agree with moving the draft to mainspace in its present state - my Keep !vote means I wish to retain it in userspace. If you move to mainspace, that move is your independent decision and should reflect your belief the draft is ready for mainspace; any other motive would be WP:POINT. A2soup (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - self-promotional in tone, so on those grounds alone it should be removed. Cannot comment on notability, since the article is completely without reference. Onel 5969  TT me 20:47, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You think the nearly 100 years dead captain wrote this? Notability depends on sources that exist, not sources listed.  Questioning notability is a big ask and out of scope for MfD.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Good draft.  Add mention of Anti-fouling paint, which he invented.  No ready for mainspace, leave it where it is, unless you personally want to work on it.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.