Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Akigka/Brokey Yacht Club

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 08:51, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Akigka/Brokey Yacht Club


This article has been deleted before and a move to mainspace (specifically allowed by WP:STALE) was reverted by an admin as an unimproved copy of a deleted article. The user is long gone. It should be adopted and made ready for mainspace or deleted. Legacypac (talk) 05:37, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - there is nothing problematic about this draft, and no benefit is derived from its deletion. Not that it's relevant, but this draft would probably even garner a keep !vote or two at AfD. A2soup (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The A7 was harsh, no longer A7-able with addition of sources. This is a borderline case typical of that which needs discussion and agreed guidelines.  It is too good a userspace draft to delete at MfD.  It has unclear potential.  Testing notability is difficult, especially for something like this likely to have coverage in foreign language sources.  New York Buildings get their own articles, why not this?  Sending it to mainspace without a champion is disruptive.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I moved it to mainspace because I thought it was notable. I don't like how SmokeyJoe thinks everything I do is disruptive. I don't like this stuck in stale draft space forever, so a keep result here justifies a return to mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Moving this page to mainspace I think is easily justified,
 * Not everything, just some very specific things.
 * Arguing at MfD that not supporting deletion justifies moving to mainspace, where the problem is notability, is disruptive. It rings of petulance, and is in defiance of Wikipedia_talk:Notability.  If you were prepared to commit to defending at AfD, if you added sourced content, that would be very different.
 * Moving it to draftspace, and adding the AfC template to commence the G13 process, would be far more reasonable. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually User:Cryptic was very harsh when reverting just such a move on another article. He basically threatened me. I would have defended this at AfD but was not given that chance. Legacypac (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * There seems to be something in your manner that sometimes comes across as aggressively confrontational, I think for me it is your declared preparedness to use a loophole to achieve deletion when deletion is denied at MfD. I have watchlisted this, but basically I find it deflating to get involved in topics likely to fall slightly below the notability bar.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I see you added another source, independent and secondary. Good.  Unfortunately it contains only a passing mention.  This is a really difficult class of draft.  Nearly wikipedia-notable, but probably not.  If Draftspacing it would attract more eyes then good, but does draftspace attract more eyes?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Support allowing indefinite retention in userspace. High potential for suitable sources to be found. There are no time limits. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:16, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

A more developed version exists in Icelandic since 2006 https://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siglingaf%C3%A9lag_Reykjav%C3%ADkur,_Brokey since 2006, but no references outside the place's own site included there. Given the small population of Iceland, we should not expect a ton of refs but it exists and is verifiable   Legacypac (talk) 22:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I created this page as a stub in mainspace, but it was moved to my userspace. I'm not entirely familiar with the notability criteria (I occasionally edit here but I'm mostly active on is.wiki). My main motive was that this is the largest sailing club in Iceland (out of the 5 or so clubs active in the country) and it's marina in Reykjavik is a popular stop for sailboats going to Greenland from Europe => Hence this information is useful for some people :). I think there certainly is potential for developing it further, but I'm perhaps not the best judge of that myself. --Akigka (talk) 12:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


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