Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:AleeRafi/The Pakistan Revolution

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Delete. There is support, albeit weak, all around for deletion as opposed to blanking. Ricky81682 (talk) 17:32, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

User:AleeRafi/The Pakistan Revolution


Userspace page that so fails WP:V the subject does not even exist anymore. Legacypac (talk) 03:24, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Blank with Inactive userpage blanked, at least. Doing so would be sufficient processing of the trivial draft.  It does seem to be WP:V failing, but it could be related to Pakistan Youth Revolution (not a shining example of an article).  "the subject does not even exist anymore" is a very poor statement to make, not existing anymore makes it easier to justify coverage, as an encyclopedia is an historiographical resource, and promotion is no longer an issue.  That said, deletion is fine, it was probably created as promotion of a non-notable student group in the process of being set up.  I could be wrong, but no information contain is sufficient to allow checking.  The title and description are hopelessly broad and the two links are broken.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:08, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as non notable organization.... Probably wouldn't survive a week in articlespace due to notability issues, Pointless blanking when you can just outright delete it ... If the user wants to rework on it they can go to WP:UNDELETE. – Davey 2010 Talk 01:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Pointless deletion when it can be just UNDELETED. You may as well just blank it if you are prepared to give prior approval to undelete.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:56, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * But that's the point it won't be undeleted because the creator's buggered off, Blanking's just a waste of time. – Davey 2010 Talk 02:16, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If you watch the Requests_for_undeletion you will see that undeletion often comes with valuable comment and couching from Admins. Unblanking comes with nothing at all except the chance some other editor gets the page during another cleanup drive. Legacypac (talk) 02:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll give you the first point. The 2nd, no. They don't do that. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:08, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I used a poor choice of words. If we blank, and it is restored (like the one restored 5 times before I MfD'd it) it will sit until some other editor finds it and MfDs or CSD's it yet again. Legacypac (talk) 05:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This page has never before been blanked or deleted or MfD-ed?  is very unlikely to return and simply unblank, but his return would be a good thing that we should anticipate.  I think redirect to Pakistan Youth Revolution would give him the appropriate message, leaving open the possibility that this topic is not actually the same thing.  There is no applicable CSD criterion, and if redirected or blanked, why would anyone think to MfD it?  Why would they ever look at it?  I presume that we are only looking at it because of its category tracking?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:10, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This page has never before been blanked or deleted or MfD-ed?  is very unlikely to return and simply unblank, but his return would be a good thing that we should anticipate.  I think redirect to Pakistan Youth Revolution would give him the appropriate message, leaving open the possibility that this topic is not actually the same thing.  There is no applicable CSD criterion, and if redirected or blanked, why would anyone think to MfD it?  Why would they ever look at it?  I presume that we are only looking at it because of its category tracking?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:10, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm not quite understanding the suggested redirect to an unrelated topic. Legacypac (talk) 07:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Unrelated? I think it is the same.  If unrelated, if this is utterly unverifiable, then delete.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:33, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * They both started in 2010 but they have different names. I don't see evidence they are connected. I also don't see notability in my searches for the mainspace article and have just AfD'd it. Legacypac (talk) 07:45, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * If it won't be undeleted, can't you just as easily say it won't be unblanked? They are essentially equal except one takes a discussion and admin time, and then admin time again if it is reversed. The other takes none of this. A2soup (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That is true but in this case it won't take admins time because it won't be undeleted (Despite my above comment I don't think the creator will ever come back), Maybe It's just my thinking but I really don't see the point in blanking a page when it won't ever be edited ever again ... to me if there's a 95% chance the editor won't be back then blanking it IMHO is a waste of time, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I found a page that had been blanked 5 times by an IP that is most likely the creator. Various editors and bots reestablished the page 5 times! Blanking does not mean it stays blanked, it becomes a blanked page that can be vandalized. Deleted pages are gone for good unless undeleted by an Admin, and that should only happen for a good reason. Legacypac (talk) 07:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah I didn't know that, So blanking them also leaves them open to be vandalized without anyone ever knowing ..... Another reason why deletion's better, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:52, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If someone vandalizes an active user's subpage the active user hopefully notices that on their watch list and fixes it. Generally no one is watching an inactive user's subpages so they become a playground. Further, while in theory userpages are no index in fact they sometimes do get indexed and they are often mirrored by sites that are indexed. Legacypac (talk) 16:07, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.