Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:AlienX2009/Kamen Rider Motifs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 16:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

User:AlienX2009/Kamen Rider Motifs
A few months ago, I had removed the original content of this subpage from the article Kamen Rider Series to remove what was evolving into a list of mostly unverified and speculative information. Shortly afterward, the author of the subpage reverted me, and I had a discussion with him on his talk page explaining why I remove the content entirely. Since then, he has been working on this content in his user subspace. This would be all well and good if he was not editing mainspace content to cater to the whims of his list.

Today, with the debut of a new fictional character which solely appears in one of the video games, and after explaining to AlienX2009 that there should not be an article on the character currently, he proceeded to add a completely unverified and original research section to the article, he added a link to his subpage.

This is not the first time he has been disrupting articles so his subpage looks good. This is just the first time that I have a clear link to his behavior (he has done this other times, but I cannot find the instances in the history of the user page and the article space). I believe this page should be deleted so AlienX2009 can focus his activities into improving the project, rather than making his personal webpage in the user subpage look good.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Extended discussion with AlienX2009 is on the talk page.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 04:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * An additional example of (coordinated) alteration of the main space to benefit the subpage is seen in the following two diffs: .— Ryūlóng  ( 竜龙 ) 05:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop it. Fractyl did that and I tried to fix things. AlienX2009 (talk) 05:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Can I please keep the page. AlienX2009 (talk) 04:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Userspace is not mainspace, and this page does not violate any rules I found. Where there is a dispute over a mainspace article, that discussion belongs in that article's talk page, and not at MfD, which is not the place for editorial disputes.   And deleting pages from userspace is unlikely, really, to make the user more focussed on an article at all.  Collect (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a dispute over a mainspace article. This is AlienX2009 actively changing the mainspace articles to cater to how he wants to format the subpage.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 11:36, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Dealing with mainspace disputes in mainspace and mainspace talk pages is likely to work better than deleting a userspace page which meets, as far as I can tell, WP policies.  If you are upset enough about his edits in mainspace, try dispute resolution -- an RfC for the article, or WQA if you feel the problem is not amenable to normal procedures.  MfD is likely not the right place for you to resolve a dispute, and it may be a way to escalate a dispute. BTW, the discussion you moved to the talk page (refactoring XfDs is "not done") shows clearly that this is all really an editorial dispute having no place here. Collect (talk) 11:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a mainspace dispute. This is disruption which has poured into the mainspace because of this userspace subpage. The back and forth between me and AlienX2009 I moved to the talk page because it was not doing much of anything here other than what would have happened on my user talk (or his). This is the second/third time AlienX2009 has disrupted the main space because of this subpage he has made. As far as I can tell with every modification to the mainspace articles, he went and updated his subpage to make it look better or have more things on it. It does not improve the encyclopedia, and a good percentage of his edits since that page's creation have been to that page.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 12:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop it. I don't do stuff to make my subs "better". what is wrong with you, so what if I update my sub you would do that to other articles when someone creates a page. AlienX2009 (talk) 15:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Users are allowed to work on articles in their Sandbox. The rules mentioned apply only to the mainspace. I'm also a victim of edit wars and I know how it feels when the Wikipedian Mafia flames you. OutOf Timer   Wanna chat?  17:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This isn't an article. It's a personal webpage of his. And what the hell is this "Wikipedian Mafia" you've brought up?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 04:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's an article he improves within his sandbox. This should not be your concern as it doesn't violate the userspace guidelines. The term Wikipedian Mafia is my own way to describe people who bully newcomers on the basis of their high edit count and experience. Feel free to suggest a better term. I'm sad to say that Wikipedia is the most hostile environment I've ever seen on the internet. Such an irony since it was supposed to be the most free. It's the attitude of senior users, who refuse to be flexible enough. Therefore, as a bullied junior member, who understands this issue and believes that this is what happens in this very case we discuss, I vote the way I do. OutOf Timer   Wanna chat?  06:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.