Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Allenwlee/Chockstone Pictures

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. The nomination was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  06:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Allenwlee/Chockstone Pictures


User Godsy determined this should not be in mainspace, but reconsigned it to the userspace of a long departed user where it has no hope of seeing the light of day. If the material is unsuitable as an article we are instructed to seek deletion. Legacypac (talk) 20:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - The rationale put forth by the nominator is not a reason for deletion. recently moved this page to Chockstone Pictures with the summary "stale draft found". WP:STALEDRAFT states "If suitable for mainspace, move to mainspace"; reliable sources are required to meet WP:V (one of the core content policies), this had no sources whatsoever, therefore the move was ill-judged. Furthermore,  WP:UP/RFC2016 (B4) found that If a draft is moved to the mainspace by a user other than its author, then found to be unsuitable for the mainspace for reasons which wouldn't apply in the userspace, it should be returned to the userspace (restoration to userspace). That aside, had Legacypac added  before moving and leaving it, I'd have left it be. —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 02:42, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * So instead of taking the time to add some references, on a topic that appears notable and for which the related principals and films have articles, you stealth deleted the page without any CSD, XfD, discussion or notification? That makes so much sense. Your rfc quotes are not policy and your behavior is disruptive and harmful to the project. There are hundreds of thousands of pages on Wikipedia without specific references at all and pretty much every article has sections that lack direct inline references.
 * WP:V does not require references for everything, it only requires that information be verifiable. If you want to Keep and were not inclined to add refs yourself, the correct course of action according to V would be to tag the article and wait a bit. If you were sure the info was false, you should have sought to delete it properly. Legacypac (talk) 02:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You are the one who is seeking the deletion of this page by bringing it here. The results of WP:UP/RFC2016 are applicable because they are based on community-wide consensus. When moving pages from the userspace of other users to the mainspace, the onus is on the mover to ensure the page is "suitable for mainspace". — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:30, 31 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Looks notable.  Requires an advocate to work on it, and to move it to mainspace.  No issues with leaving in userspace indefinitely.  There are no time limits.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:21, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Withdraw I refed it up and promoted back to mainspace. The nominated page is again a valid redirect. Legacypac (talk) 09:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.