Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Altenhofen/Krunch Kid


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. PeterSymonds (talk)  13:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Altenhofen/Krunch Kid
WP:NOT. This page is the creator's most edited page. Shapiros10  contact me My work 14:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - Something for MySpace or another such site. - Ryan (my desk) 14:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - Policy says dont create articles about yourself. But, unless he is thinking of moving the article to the mainspace, then it should be kept because he could just be using that page to tell more about him/herself. Gears  of War 2 15:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment It's a fictional band that he wants to form. I mean look at it!  he lists Zakk Wylde, Billie Joe Armstrong and Mike Shinoda!  It's a fantasy, the page he edits the most, and we aren't a webhost.  Shapiros10  contact me My work  15:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I see that clearly, but it has no harm. If he wants to waste his carreer editing that stupid article, then thats up to him. But it has no harm on anyone except for himself. Now, if he moves this page to the mainspace, it should most deffinetly be deleted. Gears  of War 2 15:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment-Read WP:NOT. Focusing his career on one userpage is disruptive.  Shapiros10  contact me My work  15:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. But maybe warn him so he can put it on some other site, since he looks like a reasonable editor. What about User:Altenhofen/Career? It's similar. Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 17:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - ✅ I have asked him to move the informaton somehwhere else before it's deleted. Gears  of War 2 17:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong keep, and comment to all of you - policy does not say "Don't create articles about yourself", and it is a perfectly acceptable use of userspace to use it as a sandbox. I strongly suggest you withdraw this MfD. – iride scent 23:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This page is the bulk of a user's contributions. Ignoring WP:NOT is a horrible use of WP:IAR.   Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  23:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * WP:NOT is about the use of Wikipedia as a social networking site. You can't simultaneously be arguing to delete something because it's fictional, and argue that he's posting his resume. And before the pair of you start throwing social-networking allegations around, you might want to do a quick mote/beam analysis, seeing as 50% of your edits are to user talk pages.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> – <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 00:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wrong guideline. WP:NOT, not MySpace.  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * THE DEAL I MADE WITH EAST I made a deal with User:east718, he said that once I get my page back I could do some of the things I was doing on it on seperate sub-pages. I haven't though, instaid I am creating new subpages for other things, I am also planning to remove the real people in the template on the bottom. Plus, there is NOTHING in wikipedia that states that subpages can't be used in any way. I doubt it even mentions subpages. I think that deleting is stupid, considering there is no reason for it. Altenhofen (talk) 00:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Coment Myspace was mankinds worst creation. and also, I am not trying to social network, do any of the things i do seem "social" to you? I am in my room 24/7 an the computer, I call that being a loner. Altenhofen (talk) 00:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * CommentAltenhofen: WP:NOT is the correct guideline. This is the page you edit the most, your primary focus.  Your primary focus shouldn't be a user subpage about you fantasizing about being in a band (i don't mean to be unkind or anything).  And no iridescent, I will not withdraw.  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And no, I'm not saying subpages cant be used. Just that they cant be your focus here.  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Then I won't focus on them, I will make ALL OF YOU a deal. I will make 500 edits to wikipedia (in the mainspace) before cruefest on the fourteenth. If I can do this, I want the deletion template removed. and the deletion aborted. Deal? Altenhofen (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Go ahead and make those edits, but Wikipedia isn't about making deals. Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not "a deal" I actually intend it to be proof that I can contribute to wikipedia properly.
 * We know you can contribute properly. Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but everything needs proof. And this will be proof to back up that last claim of yours. Altenhofen (talk) 00:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've looked at your contributions. Your contributions prove it.  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per iridescent. Silly MfD. All of you go edit an article. —Giggy 14:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete useless and should be somewhere on myspace--RadianSeize (talk) 01:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:USER. This is clearly not a work in progress but a personal webpage. hbdragon88 (talk) 06:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is going to be delted, the templ;ate needs to be changed. The deletion policy does not say anything about subpages. so unless you people find the right template it can't be deleted, because saying "This miscellaneous page is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" is lying. IT IS NOT IN ACORDANCE TO ANY POLICY. Altenhofen (talk) 21:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ALSO Subpages ARE FOR yourself. Altenhofen (talk) 21:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - See WP:NOT and WP:OWN.<font face="Lightning" size="2.0" color="#7D0008"> Gears <font face="Lightning" size="2.3" color="#7D0008"> of War 2 01:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I see a sandbox where a new editor is learning how to format articles. Also, no attempt was made to bring the issue to the user first. I know this isn't a requirement, but it's something we really need to do before MfD. More than likely we can resolve these situations with less hurt feelings and less work, as well as a better understanding of our guidelines (by the user hosting the page). Look how this situation has turned out... not very good.. -- Ned Scott 07:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete per WP:NOT, non existent band. « <font face="Tahoma"> Diligent Terrier    (talk)  16:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. All the talk about deals, and claims that somebody told him he was allowed, and that rules for pages don't apply to sub pages is nonsense. These pages have no conceivable use for Wikipedia, and whilsgt we allow a bit of freedom in user space, that is because a bit of freedom helps editors to understand each other, and promotes co-operation. This does nothing of the sort, and the user should buy some web space to host his fantasies. Mayalld (talk) 12:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per userpage policy.  Syn  ergy 13:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.