Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Amwestover/Swiftboating


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was speedy keep, page used for workshopping an ANI post (NAC) // roux   23:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Amwestover/Swiftboating
Delete. Cherry-picked diffs being used to make a case against me in AN/I about a dispute that is now weeks old. The story being told on this page amounts to an attack on me, since it severely distorts the nature of the disputes. The user who created this page has refused to engage reasonably on the talk page of the article in question, and has instead launched numerous personal attacks against me in talk while edit warring on the main content of the page. This page is not a page he created to collect evidence; it is a page he created to "swiftboat" me, painting a completely distorted picture of the content dispute in order to achieve some sort of sanction on me. It would be better to participate in the discussion instead. -- csloat (talk) 17:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've asked the user what the purpose of the page is, which we should find out before voting to delete or not. // roux   editor review 17:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; my understanding is he is preparing for an AN/I report against me (he already filed such a report here but it was dismissed, correctly in my estimation, as a content dispute). He has also given some indication of his purpose in his posts to other editors soliciting participation -- here, here, and here.  In any case, that's my understanding of the page's purpose, but perhaps he will have a different explanation. csloat (talk) 20:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Looks like preparation for some sort of post - we are not mindreaders, but the article as it is now appears not to harm anyone. No one seema to look at it or link to it, and commentary when preparing posts for ANI or the like are permitted.  Meanwhile, searching out posts by others is generally not a very fruitful endeavor.  As the page has existed for only four days, it looks more like one person is stalking every page edited by another editor.  Collect (talk) 12:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No, we're not mindreaders, that's why we read what the person actually writes instead. Please read WP:STALK before throwing around baseless accusations. csloat (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Dear me -- I certainly meant no accusation at all, I was just wondering how this page with essentially ZERO accesses was found so rapidly. Collect (talk) 16:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You've got to be kidding me, Speedy Keep. This is clearly a worksheet for a future ANI. I have no hidden agenda here, but apparently csloat thinks an ANI report draft against him is an "attack" (whoa, that's a surprise). Funny that he cited WP:STALK in a previous comment here, since the only way he could've found out about this page -- which is in my own userspace, BTW -- was to look through my contributions since there's no link to the subpage from my main userpage or the discussion; and then he wrote on the main page without permission. He's lucky I was nice enough to simply move that edit to the discussion page since I could've taken further action. If there's any harassment here, it's on his part. The page is only publicly accessible via invitations for comment that I've extended to a few users on their talk pages -- and there may be more invitations, I dunno, but I'm currently a little busy in real life. Heck, I may even invite them to contribute! Oh, and csloat, while you were reading swiftboating, did you happen to read tongue-in-cheek? --Amwestover (talk|contrib) 16:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * All pages on Wikipedia are publicly accessible. You need to read WP:STALK before making wild accusations, and I would suggest reading WP:AGF and WP:NPA as well.  I'm really curious to know what "further action" you think you could take against someone for asking you a question.  As for your comment about swiftboating, if this whole thing is "tongue in cheek," would you mind deleting the page now that we've all had a hearty laugh at your wit?  It may be funny to you, but to me it's rather insulting.  Thanks. csloat (talk) 23:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.