Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BQZip01/FBS Trademarked logos




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  keep. –B LACK F ALCON  (T ALK ) 21:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

User:BQZip01/FBS Trademarked logos
This page is nothing but to show off images, trademarked as the page says, that the user has uploaded. This is clearly not allowed and should be immediately deleted.  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 07:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC) 07:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's a non-free gallery, then it can be speedied under WP:U3. If there is not a copyright issue, then I am not sure I understand your point.  Skomorokh   08:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, to be honest, I wasn't aware there was a CSD option. I looked, but didn't find a good option, so I went with a MfD (which is the XfD that came up in the TWINKLE list).  If you wish to take it via WP:U3, please feel free. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 08:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, but having looked at about a dozen of these I did not find any marked as non-free. Those that are will be taken care of by the bots in time I imagine. Is there some other reason you feel the page ought to be deleted?  Skomorokh   08:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, when I tried to add images to my userpage (in my case they were radio station logos) as part a system I was working on to check if images were PNG, I was told that images of any kind like that were not allowed under the rules. Having a picture on the userpage (as some do) was allowed though.  If they wish to list the images, I think they should be in a Image:NAMEHERE.jpg format.  That is the reason I brought this here, I am under the impression that having a page full of images like this isn't allowed. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 08:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that. I can't find anything in WP:UP that tells me why your radio-logo-page was nuked. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 08:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutralhomer, if the radio station logo you tried to include in your userspace was non-free, then of course it would not be allowed. However, if it was a freely-licensed image, there should have been no problems. Which was it, free or non-free? As I'll state below, regarding the current nomination, so long as the images are free, there is no issue with having a gallery page like this one. — Huntster (t @ c) 23:28, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Since it is in userspace and not an article, a general delete is not warranted. Each of these logos needs to be checked. Those that are not free need to be removed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 08:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep These are indeed trademarked images, but they are ineligible for copyright. I would not post them here if they were copyrightable. Furthermore, this is not a "show off" page, but a repository for ease of use. Additioanlly, I did not upload most of these. — BQZip01 —  talk 08:51, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep possibly speedily. [WP:Clearly not allowed] is not yet a free-standing policy, it needs to be followed by "because it violates ". The nom may think their own experience was analogous, but they haven't provided a diff to that discussion and I got dizzy trying to work back through their edit and talk history. Non-free images in user space are a problem, but PD images organized for easy reference, I can't figure out what the problem would be. Franamax (talk) 21:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps strangely, I oppose a speedy keep. Let's hear the full gamut of opinion on the subject before closure. — BQZip01 —  talk 07:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A gallery of public domain images in userspace is obviously permissible and a case for neither U3 nor MfD. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 22:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In the interest of symmetry, I must point out that [WP:Obviously permissible] also has not gained status as a separate policy. Franamax (talk) 02:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This is true. How about this: "Obviously permissible, per not being prohibited by WP:IUP and per common sense." A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep So long as the images are free, there is no issue with having a userspace gallery of images, such as this one. — Huntster (t @ c) 23:28, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Trademark is not copyright. --Carnildo (talk) 02:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: PD and PD-text trademarked logos may or may not be a good idea on Wikipedia user pages, but there is no policy or guideline against the use seen on this page. Deletion of this page would first require alterations to existing policy and guidelines to restrict/prevent the usage of trademarked PD images on user pages. CrazyPaco (talk) 04:18, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Any logo which should be deleted under WP guidelines and policies should be marked for deletion by itself.  Userspace can utilize any images properly on WP and which are not violative of copyright etc. Trademark law refers to use of a logo as a trademark (d'uh) and does not furnish a valid reason to delete the page in userspace.   And, as usual, lacking a WP policy or guideline based valid reason for deletion, default to Keep. Collect (talk) 00:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SOSUMI. ViperSnake151   Talk  01:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.