Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Benjamin L. Vidmar/sandbox/Benjamin Vidmar

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. ✗ plicit  01:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Benjamin L. Vidmar/sandbox/Benjamin Vidmar

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Doesn't appear to be notable, created by article subject who has not edited in a year so it's incredibly unlikely this will ever become an article. Nominating at MfD per. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:02, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting that WikiProject advice directly contradicts the relevant guideline, WP:STALE. Basically, if it's not CSDable and hasn't been submitted to AfC there's not a reason to delete. In this case, it should qualify for either U5 or G11. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 04:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The guideline seems to be unclear here. Point two of WP:STALE is (which, does not apply in this case anyway, but) however that is sourced to a January 2020 RfC on the topic of established users. Meanwhile, point six  allows taking it to MfD. There isn't really a criteria here for handling "non-problematic stale drafts of users who weren't ever that active" - but I think deletion in those cases makes sense. There's no reason to keep perma-drafts around. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, and also implies they should be deleted. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * On principle, I'm generally against policing other people's userspaces apart from the most egregious cases (the vast majority of which are taken care of by CSD). Nobody's realistically going to see these pages apart from those doing maintenance work and the creator. There's already a lot of leeway to just blank pages in WP:STALE such that I think it's rarely necessary to take them to MfD. My two cents, anyway. That said, I also don't feel strongly about [crappy] drafts of users who weren't ever that active, so wouldn't worry much if we had a criterion addressing, say, "userspace drafts more than one year old with no potential, created by an editor with no other edits" or somesuch. But like I said, I think CSD could probably help with this particular case. And yes, that internal conflict between "don't delete just because of notability" and "drafts on subjects that aren't notable shouldn't be kept forever" is a fun result of a few messy RfCs a few years ago. the last time it came up I was close to starting an RfC, but something shiny must've distracted me. I guess it's just less of a pressing issue now that most of the very passionate "we go through everyone's user space and take out the trash" users have been blocked or moved on. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk \\ 05:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I was just trying to get through "backlog" categories - drafts not marked as drafts, I wouldn't see/touch. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 05:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There are still editors who comb through old user space sandboxes and tag pages for speedy deletion that were last edited years ago by currently inactive users. I honestly don't know how they find them with all of the millions of user space pages that exist. Liz Read! Talk! 05:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete U5. A drive-by autobiography dump, linking to his collection of other websites. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - as SmokeyJoe says, a drive-by autobiography. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete U5 - The creator has no contributions apart from creating this autobiography/resume. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 20:52, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per SmokeyJoe. —  csc -1 02:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.