Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Brake1ra/Lindsay Lou & the Flatbellys

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Moved to Draft:Lindsay Lou & the Flatbellys. There's no consensus here at the moment to move to articlespace (and I don't want it to be listed at AFD if done immediately). If SmokeyJoe thinks that it's adequate for mainspace, SmokeyJoe can move it there (or work on it a little beforehand). Ricky81682 (talk) 05:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Brake1ra/Lindsay Lou & the Flatbellys


Delete as per WP:STALEDRAFT: not worked on since 2012. P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Not stale. Clearly intended to be an article, and pretty good.  Move to mainspace.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:59, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Not stale??? Do you even know what stale means? I hasn't been edited since November 2012. That is very stale!!! -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 12:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * stale means that there is now something incorrect about the information, due to the information being woefully out of date. User:Gigs made a big mistake introducing "stale" into the WP:UP vernacular, it really is not useful, and it never was a reason for deletion per se. Why people think it is is really weird. If "stale" means "old", then how do you cope with long unedited mainspace articles? If "stale" we're to mean "built on a brief burst of news reports" it might be useful, but redundant to something at WP:NOT. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:59, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * In Wikipedia parlance, a stale draft is a draft article that, had it been in Draft: space or submitted as an article under Articles for creation, had not been edited in 6 months.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No. Routine deletion of drafts outside draft space was explicitly and strongly excluded.  Wikipedia should not be redefining simple word.  STALEDRAFT was coined at WP:UP without reference to Draftspace  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the confusion might be less over the word stale than it is over the word draft. When I created that shortcut, there was no draft namespace, and I don't recall the timing, but AfC might not even have been a big deal back then either.   In any case the guideline itself outlines what cases merit removal. Gigs (talk) 18:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Soft delete so that any user in good standing can request un-deletion and move it to his own user space or Draft: space. If this were in article space today I would be tagging it as promotional in tone and I'd be looking into the band's notability.  If the editor were active then I would say "keep."  How about a compromise:  Move it to Draft: and submit it through AFC.  That will start the 6-month WP:CSD countdown clock. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Although many of the references are non-independent, the ones that are, and simple google searching, reveals that this is a notable band. why do you think it doesn't belong in mainspace?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:37, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.