Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Brucehaxton/What Makes A Good EFL Teacher?


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was Delete. User notified that material can be provided upon request. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 21:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Brucehaxton/What Makes A Good EFL Teacher?
I am nominating this page and User:Brucehaxton/Getting as much as you can out of your gap year for deletion because they appear to be violations of Wikipedia is not a free webhost. Author has no other encyclopedic contributions (these two articles were userfied from mainspace), and the content could not be said to be draft articles as they are in the nature of how-to guides in a conversational tone. Stifle (talk) 11:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Userfied per WP:DEADLINE and I can not say 10 days is quite excessive. User appears to have made 2 AfC posts, and so should not be stomped on quite yet. Collect (talk) 12:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep give this a chance to be turned into meaningful content, as that will be what the user intended. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unsourced and unsourcable original research essays that will never be anything more. User never came back after articles were userfied. Was not userfied per WP:DEADLINE - I don't know where Collect got that from - I userfied to avoid WP:BITE. ➲ redvers sit down next to me 11:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Blank if he doesn't respond to non-condescending messages (that haven’t been posted yet).  Bruce sounds like a nice guy and is obviously a newcomer.  Slapping those ugly templates and deleting his contribution history is definitely bitey.  Bruce is a traveller, and wikipedia needs more pictures, maybe we can work something out here.  Has he ever been somewhere not covered by a wikipedia article, or can the existing article be improved? If he becomes a valued contributor, then we’ll allow him to record some personal assays (sure, conditions apply).  Clearly, he is not yet conversant with out content policies.  Give him a chance.  “Deletion” can be interpreted as “we don’t want you”. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Advise user to see Alternative outlets --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I have never subscribed to the theory that it's more ok to create useless junk in userspace if you contribute elsewhere. If a page, like this one, has no chance of ever being made into an article because it's subject is not appropriate, it is just sitting here taking up space for no good purpose. Not biting the newcomers means that we should be nice in out interactions with new users, not that they should get a free pass to create junk pages. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding space: note Don't worry about performance, and also note that when deleted it will continue to occupy space. I don't think that not deleting reactively is to give a free pass to create junk.  If someone repeatedly creates junk, they would be stopped, eventually by blocking.  I don't agree with calling the page here in question "junk".  "Junk" is a bitey term.  The page has laudable intentions, is even inspirational.  It's problem is that it doesn't meet wikipedia's core content policies, namely WP:V or WP:NOR.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess you have a point about the use of the word "junk," I certainly wouldn't want my contribs characterized that way. Let's say "inappropriate content for Wikipedia." I think the message we need to send here is that there is a place for this type of content, at WikiTravel or WikiHow but not at Wikipedia. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. User:Brucehaxton looks like he isn't around and won't be here to participate in this discussion.  Let's clarify that for his deleted pages, he can readily have them temporarily undeleted for moving elsewhere, or he can have them emailed.  All he needs to do is ask an admin, prefereably the one who did the deletion.  Probably, I thoing he would have a copy elsewhere already.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.