Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Cyde/Weird pictures (2nd nomination)




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  KEEP - contrary to the nom, there is no evidence that any of the images are fair use only images (which can't be displayed on user pages), the few that have possible copyright images are being dealt with on the appropriate deletion pages; all appear on their face to be publicly licensed. Keeping indexes of unusual groupings of pages is both common and useful as it assists the user and possibly other editors find pages of interest for editing or in this case for possible linking within articles.Doug.(talk • contribs) 19:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Cyde/Weird pictures
Image gallery (possibly fair-use) just to make a point. Violates (among others) the user page policy.  Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 10:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't see it as being there only to make a point and it doesn't seem to really be violating any policies. Plus I think it's interesting. Oh and Wikipedia is not censored. I Feel Tired (talk) 12:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's the point I was talking about... thank you for proving my argument. -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 16:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as above and what particular userpage policy he's violating? Kindly cite †B lo o d p ac k†  12:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Please, just read the leading paragraph for god's sake.

[...] Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general hosting service, so your user page is not a personal website. Your user page is about you as a Wikipedian, and pages in your user space should be used as part of your efforts to contribute to the project. In addition, there is broad agreement that you may not include in your user space material that is likely to bring the project into disrepute.
 * -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 16:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep One of the primary intended uses of userspace is the meta-discussion of the Wikipedia project, open source, creative commons, free software, censorship, etc, and this sort of introspective essay/gallery is a fine example of what userspace is actually intended for! Gigs (talk) 17:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What exactly has changed since the first time around? And I don't appreciate the shotgun approach to this MfD, what with the bunch of supposed violations and hoping one sticks.  So, in order: I believe everything on that page is freely licensed.  If it's not, it should be removed from the page per the non-free content policy; it doesn't justify nuking the entire page.  No, I am not just making a point.  And as for violation of userspace ... guess what, we're somewhat lenient on the enforcement of that rule when it comes to productive Wikipedians.  Though I could come up with a list of literally tens of thousands of userspace subpages that have a lot less to do with the encyclopedia than a gallery of its weirdest images (secret pages, guestbooks, calendars, userboxes, etc).  -- Cyde Weys  05:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per arguments stated above. — Reinyday, 06:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as valid use of userspace by a productive editor. Obviously remove any fair use images. Stifle (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ?. On multiple computers, with multiple browsers, the page doesn't load for me?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's weird. Do you live in Austrailia? Because I hear that in Austrailia this page is on some government black list, and if the computers are public computers the sexual nature of the images may have triggered the porn filter on the computer, or maybe there are just too many images to load. I Feel Tired (talk) 20:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm in Australia. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC).  I can see the page in the google cache.  I had no idea that there was a Australian government secret internet blacklist.  The User appears to have a purpose for the page.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, your government is blacklisting that page, among others. I'm probably risking some Australian fines by pointing you to seek more information at ACMA and Wikileaks (which is down at the moment), but whatever. Copysan (talk) 06:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. With this many previous nominations, it's a foregone conclusion that this should be kept unless there's some blockbuster deletion reason, which there isn't. Moreover, this page actually predates any userpage guidelines discouraging such pages. Lastly, this discussion has already established that the page has independent utility to the project - as a detector for external censorship. — Gavia immer (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Valid use of userspace for sure. Collect (talk) 01:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. MrStalker, first you say that this is per WP:POINT, as it is making a statement about Wikipedia. Then you say that it is content unrelated to Wikipedia. It cannot be both. What's more, it seems to me a perfect valid use of user space to raise an issue concerning the censorship of Wikipedia - and as such is a worthy cause that is trying to stop the project from being brought into disrepute. Grutness...wha?  23:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.