Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:DNGK/Citizen exploitation

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was keep without prejudice to future nomination if there is little or no further action in a reasonable time. BencherliteTalk 08:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

User:DNGK/Citizen exploitation


Essay, violation of WP:OR. I feel mildly guilty nominating this one, because a lot of work has gone into it, but I don't think it's salvageable. I can't find any sources that use the expression "citizen exploitation" as it is here, where it's being used to mean "exploitation of citizen journalists" (ie, by outfits like Huffington Post that don't pay their bloggers.) Maybe some of the content could be moved to the citizen journalism article, with care taken not to include original research/synth, but I don't think "citizen exploitation" is a plausible redirect to that page. Delete. Dawn Bard (talk) 13:54, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Well it is quite the WP:ESSAY. Actually it does have some usable citations so the cited parts of it could make a paragraph in Citizen journalism under 'Criticisms' - perhaps a new section 4.5 'Exploitation'. We could call that a Merge I guess; if that's not feasible then it's plainly Delete. I'm happy to vote either way on that. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 16:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * See Canada Education Program/Courses/Present/The Newspaper in Canadian Society (Michael Valpy)/Students. Note that quite a lot of the other essays are in userspace sandboxes, with a few exceptions such as this and the heavily opinionated newspaper commercialism. Uncle G (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't object to a speedy-userfication with relocation of this discussion to MFD, as you mentioned on my talk page, Uncle G. Dawn Bard (talk) 18:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems to have been speedily userfied, so wish was granted. I've not seen one of these MFDs before - it appears that the entire class set of essays (as we used to call them at university) is up for deletion? Because they're indeed university essays (in userspace sandboxes or no) and therefore no part of a global encyclopedia, is that it? If those are proper grounds for deletion, then OK, we have to delete. Could someone advise me? Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:35, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Just "User:DNGK/Citizen exploitation" is up for deletion at MfD. Essays from the entire class set of essays may have to be deleted one at a time if they are in article space or user space. If they are in Wikipedia space, you would list Canada Education Program at MfD requesting that the WikiProject be terminated and its page and subpages be deleted. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 *  Delete Keep - Looks like an article. It certainly isn't an essay about Wikipedia. Not much effort in it since Dec/Jan 2012. Delete per WP:STALEDRAFT. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The namespace the content resides in affects the deletion discussion. This content was placed in article space and was listed at AfD. The content originally should have been placed in Wikipedia space. However, the content was userfied from article space to userspace on May 16, 2012. WP:STALEDRAFT gives a user about three months or so to edit and move to article space or risk deletion. Three months from May 16, 2012 is August 16, 2012. So keep. The content in userspace will get deleted eventually. If you want to keep it, you need to move it to Wikipedia space where Wikimedia Foundation's Wikipedia Education Program apparently (and oddly) allows students and teachers to use some of Wikipedia to host their class writings.


 * Comment - (not directly related to this MfD) I'm not sure that the WikiProject Canada Education Program (see Ungle G's link above) is a good thing as it seems to encourage writing articles in the form of essays and them post them to article space. The outcome seems to be horrible Wikipedia articles, similar to the kind you get from paid editors. If it wasn't for the Wikimedia Foundation involvement, I would be of a mind to perhaps MfD Canada Education Program (after seeing whether I could get them to change their ways on their talk page). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, in light of the recent move to userspace. Let's allow a few more months for improvements to be made.  Super Mario  Man  13:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep with no prejudice against re-listing if no significant improvements are made in a timely manner. Achowat (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.