Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Daedalus969/list


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was speedy delete per the creator's request. --chaser (talk) 06:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

User:Daedalus969/list
This sort of page is problematic. Keeping private lists of users that one has issues with tends to be frowned on by the community. If there are issues with particular users, they should be brought to the appropriate dispute resolution or administrative attention page, such as WP:RFCU, WP:SPI, WP:ANI or the like, so that the community can deal with them, not retained indefinitely. Per precedent deleting similar pages previously, this page should be deleted. ++Lar: t/c 04:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * version nominated is here — Cheers, Jack Merridew 05:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - This is no enemies list, it is a list of stalkers of myself, another, and a list of problem users. I cannot remember the reason for every page I watch, this is to remember why I have such pages watched so that, if a user comes back and starts editing in a similar way as they were blocked for previously, I can report it.  Second of all, there was another page kept by an admin which was similarly nominated for deletion, and it was decided to be kept.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ABF — Ched : ?  04:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What the hell did I ever do do you? The list is to keep track of problem users, mainly stalkers of myself.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There is nothing personal whatsoever in my !vote. Pages such as this are typically not acceptable in this encyclopedic endeavor.  If you wish to keep a personal list of people you suspect of wrongdoing, or malicious behavior, I suggest you do so off-wiki — Ched :  ?  05:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. If you want to keep a list of this nature, open an Excel spreadsheet and keep it off-wiki. 04:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanthalas39 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete, SPEEDY-Against the nature of the project. I thought it was encouraged for people to straighten up their acts and fly right, to become useful and productive editors, even if they originally came here to be naughty. Keeping a list goes against this basic philosophy, it's definititely against assume good faith. And for someone who talks about their stalkers alot, it seems rather stalkerish to have a list of people you can check up on at any time. If you want to have a list off site, more power to ya, but doesn't belong here. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 04:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete — Attack page. Cheers, Jack Merridew 05:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No it is not. It is used as evidence building to keep track of my and Gwen's stalkers, how is that an attack page.  But then again, why should I expect a reply from you, a person who has be pointlessly incivil to me in the past and one who has refused to explain himself given that info.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Should we start an ANI about this baseless uncivil comment you just made about another user with out providing any proof at all. Ridernyc (talk) 05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

♦ User:Daedalus969/207.237.33.36&thinsp; diff Cheers, Jack Merridew 05:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment — some of the content of this list has been moved to
 * That's slick, this page is gonna get deleted, so i'll just move all of the info to another page real quick, lol ;). Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) Extremely disingenuous to essentially move this material to a different page (with a misleading edit summary, no less) during this MfD. Tan   &#124;   39  05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No. I deleted the material that all of you consider to attack other users.  The part of the list I moved was the stalker part, and there is nothing saying other wise that I can't track my stalkers.  Why don't you just go ahead and delete the other evidence pages being built by other users?—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Track or stalk? You have the appearance of committing the very act you are accusing these other editors of. Why are you persisting in this course? Several people have suggested you keep your "evidence" off wiki. Do you have a reason why it has to be here? Please explain, I'm confused. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) Request nom to transclude additional page and salt if at all possible. — Ched : ?  05:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - exactly what Ched said. Just put all this in a file on your computer, or is there some special reason it needs to be on-wiki? Nableezy (talk) 05:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you just love deleting pages that people have built up in regards to evidence against disruptive users, perhaps you should add this page as well. Let me search for some others.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, Daedalus, that is disingenuous. That page of mine was used to build a page that was posted, in its entirety and verbatim, to the RfA talk page. It had a singular use and is clearly not even remotely similar to this page(s) of yours. Your attitude here is not helping you. Tan   &#124;   39  05:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Secondly, could you please back up your diff of me harassing someone, that is not recent? I haven't harassed anyone, so take back your personal attack.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete claims he uses to track vandals, but his actions show he uses to stalk and harass. Ridernyc (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He never claimed he uses it to track vandals. Also, your statement here constitutes a personal attack. Please consider retracting and/or refactoring. Tan   &#124;   39  05:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He has claimed it in the ANI thread that is related to this, it also clear in that ANI that he is harraassing other users. So no I do not consider this a personal attack. Ridernyc (talk) 05:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He says just above here a few posts back that he uses it to track his stalkers. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * you might want to read this current ANI Ridernyc (talk) 05:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom, serves no encyclopedic value, and is not within the realm of exceptions for such uses of userspace. Namely, for short-term building of evidence to be used in a specific RFAR/RFC/etc. Suggest also serious warning and/or block for the incredibly incivil behaviour on display from the user in question on this very page, and for moving the content to another page. Though I will note that it was removed, it was, to be charitable, poor form. // roux   05:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * NO, you think I'm harassing someone because after they attack me, I go there page and demand they retract there post. That is hardly harassment. I'm not arguing or stalking the users on the stalker list, I'm keeping track of them should more show up, as the SPI related to the investigation actually listed under a possibly unrelated user, so further requests will look unrelated. I have no other choice.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I said nothing about harassment anywhere. The incivil behaviour I was referring to was your behaviour on this page, the MfD. None of that matters; policy and precedent state that pages of this nature are quite simply not permitted in userspace unless they are being used to build a forthcoming, or contribute to an extant, RFAR/RFC/etc. On a personal note, I suggest you take a week or more away from Wikipedia; you have grown increasingly combative lately and it is only likely to result in a forced vacation. Nobody wants that, so a break is probably in order. It's June. There's sunshine and birds and trees and scantily-clad folks all around. Go enjoy 'em for a bit. The 'pedia will still be here. // roux   05:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Secondly, I'm going to request that that specific diff of the addition be removed by a selective delete. I don't care about this page anymore, the list, I mean. The only thing I care about is the IP tracking page, as the IP was informally banned, that page is for rather, keeping track of involved admins should the IP show up, and, if the IP does show up, for keeping track of the IP ranges. I can't do this at SPI as the page was listed under a possibly unrelated user, and hence, further SPI requests will turn out to be unrelated. I don't really have any other choice here. The involved admins have been alerted to the page's existence so they can update it as well.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * comment it is likely the best procedure to confine our edits to the merit of the MfD in question. Continued debate on the intents and purposes are not likely to resolved anything here.  If it is acceptable to the community, I'd suggest that we stick to the topic at hand, which is the discussion of this particular piece of data now currently residing on Wikipedia.  — Ched :  ?  05:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * close I believe that is MfD is no longer relevant: link ... close at will. — Ched : ?  06:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.