Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Dakota Pauls (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 01:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

User:Dakota Pauls
Relisted. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

MfDs for this page:  WP:STALEDRAFT states: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content. Private copies of pages that are being used solely for long-term archival purposes may be subject to deletion." Because this page violates WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:STALEDRAFT, it should be deleted. No improvements to the page have been made since 8 April 2010. The creator,, who is a single-purpose account, has not edited since 8 April 2010. Cunard (talk) 19:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 *  Weak keep Delete I'm not inclined to describe this as a WP:STALEDRAFT. The presence of userpage at the top of the page makes the nature of this page pretty clear to anyone who happens to see it. The creator of the page has a smattering of live article edits, so maybe he shouldn't be called a SPA. That said, Dakota also tried to create an article on his non-notable band (see here; interestingly, a different Canadian band with the same name has since become notable enough for an article). Regardless, this is fairly harmless; I don't see what we'd gain by deleting. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 21:09, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The live edits are trivial; the editor would still meet the criteria at Single-purpose account. A single-purpose account is defined as "a user account or IP editor whose editing is broadly limited to one very narrow area or set of articles". A review of 's edits confirms this fact. The userspace draft contains numerous edits by numerous IPs. It has been edited in July 2010, August 2010, September 2010, October 2010, November 2010, December 2010, January 2011, March 2011, and April 2011. last edited on 8 April 2010. It is unwise to retain a WP:FAKEARTICLE that masquerades as a userpage. It is unwise to retain indefinitely a page about a minor that has been edited by only IPs for the past year. If untrue or negative details about this minor were to seep into this page, harm could be done. Cunard (talk) 22:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point. Dakota is inactive and presumably no longer keeps track of edits to his userpage; false or negative information could easily be added by any number of anonymous users. Because he is a minor and appears to have used as his real name for his username, I think we should err on the side of caution here. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 00:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio  Let's talk about it! 13:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Mostly or largely an acceptable userpage for a contributor.  I assume that the account name is the user's real name, and that the IPs editing the userpage are likely to be the user logged out.  These IPs other edits show them to be welcome contributors.  Recommend posting a note on the userpage requesting confirmation of these things, and suggesting that the person is better off editing while logged in.  I haven't checked that the IPs are likely located in the same place.  Anything that reads as promotion should be removed by editing by any user.  Come back here if there is a dispute.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Crafted as an article in violation of WP:FAKEARTICLE and not edited by the creator for over a year, this page should be deleted. Per Protecting children's privacy and Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy, it is unwise to retain private information about minors. It is uncertain whether the IPs are the minor, so per WP:BLPDELETE, this page which contains the birthdate of this minor and the minor's full name and other personal information must be deleted. Cunard (talk) 19:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I already considered these things. An editor making his personal userpage look superficially like a real article is allowed, for a genuine contributor, which I continue to assume this person is.  The user page tag reduces the potential for confusion.  I have just modified it to  .  I don't share your level of concern about full names and birthdates for teenagers.  This near-17 year old is elsewhere promoting himself as a public person, and I don't agree that he needs us to protect his privacy.  If the associated IPs are the user, or closely associated with the user, then they are to be encouraged, and I think allowing this userpage is encouragement and otherwise harmless.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:41, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This editor has only contributed to Wikipedia in January 2010. The edits were of a trivial nature, save for the creation of Wildlife band of which he is a member. He also added links to his band, Wildlife (band) (note that the current article is about a different band) to Glam metal; his version was speedily deleted. You write: "This near-17 year old is elsewhere promoting himself as a public person, and I don't agree that he needs us to protect his privacy" – first, I have not checked to see whether this minor's birthdate, full name, and other private information are available elsewhere (this does not matter), but it is unwise to have that information publicly available via Wikipedia. Second, although other websites allow this minor to "promot[e] himself as public person", Wikipedia should not. Per the privacy and promotional concerns, this page should be deleted. "If the associated IPs are the user, or closely associated with the user, then they are to be encouraged" – it is unknown whether all the IPs are this individual. The public information of this minor, even if posted by someone closely associated with him, might not have been posted with his consent. The sensitive information of this minor's full name and birthdate and other private information should be deleted. The user or people associated with him should not be encouraged to promote himself and his band on Wikipedia. Cunard (talk) 23:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:FAKEARTICLE.   ArcAngel    (talk) ) 03:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Klein zach  23:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.