Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Davykamanzi

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:18, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Davykamanzi
See Davy Kamanzi. This is a userspace recreation of self promotional article. I would say delete and salt the mainspace as well to prevent further recreations there. Speedy declined because an admin felt spam does not apply to userpace. As it is here now take your pick:

POLICY:
 * WP:PROMOTION - Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion.

GUIDELINES:
 * WP:UP - Simple use as a personal web page is not in itself a speedy deletion criterion, although clear advertising and promotional use is. and A user's contributions that consist solely of a lone edit to their user page should not normally be speedy deleted unless it consists solely of spam or other speedy deletable material.
 * WP:PROMO - Do not make a new article for your own product or web site..
 * WP:FAKEARTICLE - Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles... Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable child. Gigs (talk) 02:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt mainspace per all the above. User page could be modified to comply with policy; user is aware of this. –  OhioStandard  (talk) 16:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Wikipedia is not myspace. MER-C 00:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can't argue against deletion on policy basis, but there is perhaps a really problematic cultural communication issue here; we're dealing with a 13 year old guy from Kenya, whose cultural values are different from ours, and however much we assail him with our first-world values, he's lucky to even have internet access, let alone the obvious talent he has shown in constructing a userpage, even though it looks like an article. This is an editor we should be encouraging, not rejecting. As regards previous deletions, they have been perhaps inadequately explained to him in terms that he can understand. Policy aside, I don't see WP:UP actually forbidding this kind of page, WP:NOTMYSPACE notwithstanding. An easy way of avoiding that criticism is to add NOINDEX to his userpage and offering guidance. Of course, if he won't take that advice, results must follow: but he's 13, and so were you once, and I doubt you took the advice that was offered to you then. Editor needs adoption. Rodhull andemu  00:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a section titled "Pages that look like articles", the shortcut is WP:FAKEARTICLE or WP:UP. As well, such detailed biographical information on a completely non-notable child arguably falls under our duty to protect children. I kind of see what you are getting at, and absolutely feel free to try to talk with them on their talk page, but I think this is a pretty clear deletion either way. Gigs (talk) 02:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Call me cynical, but I suspect this person (Kamanzi) doesn't even exist. Fixer23 (talk) 03:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Just as said above. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 08:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FAKEARTICLE and point user to Guidance for younger editors; we're dealing with a 13-year-old who's divulging a little bit too much about himself... Salvio  Let's talk about it! 16:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Consider WP:OS... not sure if this can be done without consent of editor. -- N  Y  Kevin  @845, i.e. 19:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


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