Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:EricV89/TeenWiki Cabal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was  delete . Although the "it's harmless" line of argument has historically been afforded more weight at MFD than AFD, I don't feel it's quite persuasive against a policy-based rationale, such as the couple here that cite WP:NOT. east718 //  talk  //  email  // 04:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

User:EricV89/TeenWiki Cabal
I am very concerned with this cabal. While I tolerate the Bathrobe cabal because it was created as a joke, not as a social network. This Cabal was created only for the purpose of socializing, which violates WP:MYSPACE and reduces overall productivity.  Marlith  (Talk)   01:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm not seeing a problem here, and since it's creation there hasn't been any issues. -- Ned Scott 02:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks completely harmless. If/when there's a problem, we can do something about it then. -- how do you turn this on  00:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's a humourous cabal nothing more. Not meant for socialization, only discussions on how to improve Wikipedia among teen editors. -- eric (mailbox)  04:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as humourous. Just remove all the non-free images per USERPAGE. Pie is good   (Apple is the best)  20:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This page blatantly violates WP:MYSPACE. We've kept "cabals" similar to this in the past because they (at least ostensibly) claim to be focused on improving the encyclopedia. There is absolutely no intent here. It's purely a social page. They've got movie reviews for goodness sake. It also had fair-use images, which I've removed. seresin ( ¡? )  00:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Makes no indication of how it will improve Wikipedia and doesn't look at all humorous. Movie reviews? Featured track? How is that either funny or improving the project? Userspace is not a substitute for Myspace groups. Mr.Z-man 18:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete More myspacing.  MBisanz  talk 04:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The nature of the bathrobe cabal is not one of a group, but rather, a funny page like WP:ODD and WP:LAME as opposed to a group. This cabal in itself, is meant to be a group with discussions, not a joke page. Marlith  (Talk)   05:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment As a person who feels that sites like myspace are a cancer on the internet, I'm having a hard time equivocating this "cabal" to the spawn of evil known as myspace. Feel free to support its deletion because you feel it's stupid or whatever, but come on, it's not even close to being like myspace. -- Ned Scott 22:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not myspace, and I honestly do not see how this works to better the articles that we are all here to write. Also, when I saw the term "teenagers" it made me worry: Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy. Tiptoety  talk 02:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wat? Protecting children's privacy? That case was about people preemptively freaking out and making a big issue out of nothing. Not only that, but we're not even talking about the same age groups here. -- Ned Scott 03:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete "Myspace hurts my eyes" --Jimbo Wales. It serves in no way to improve the project. Jor  dan  Contribs  17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice assertion, now would ANYONE care to actually back this up? None of you have even come close to showing how this is might create a situation described on WP:NOT. Being like myspace in some remote aspects (and for the love of god, don't give myspace credit for such basic concepts, even if they have tainted them by association) doesn't mean it is a violation of any of the four cited examples on WP:NOT. -- Ned Scott 03:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies for appearing worked up about this, but many of us are mindful of the myspace/ESA-paranoia-slippery slope that leads to tons of needless deletions. This is a far cry from what we set out to avoid in WP:MYSPACE, and we need to stop acting so freaking paranoid about anything with the slightest similarities to something like myspace. Especially when there is no evidence of disruption. -- Ned Scott 04:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Granted I'm not going to lose any sleep on it, but it's a pet-peeve of mine. -- Ned Scott 04:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's it, I'm thinking about this waaaaay too hard. -- Ned Scott 04:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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