Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:G-Ball (Sport)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was delete. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 17:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

User:G-Ball (Sport)
User is trying to get around our notability requirements for articles by using a username and this userpage. Delete -- Theresa Knott | token threats 22:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would have likely given the user more then just 18 hours between notification of the issue and nomination, but thats very minor. I do notice the account was created yesterday, but this is a completely appropriate nomination.  Also, given the likely fact that this user and User:G-Balla are the same person given the editing history there remains a potential sock-puppet issue. --Jordan 1972 (talk) 22:39, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well given that instead of replying to me on his talk page he instead chose to create a sock I can't see any reason to wait longer. I see that he is now happily creating multiple sockpuppets in order to try and sway this debate. Theresa Knott | token threats 07:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete - I myself am an avid fan of the game G-Ball and believe that this page is not in any way in breach of the Wikipedia notability guidelines. Many people that i know and I love the sport of G-Ball and have been waiting for a full list of rules to be published, so that we may play appropriately and encourage the growth of the sport. If this page were to be deleted it would deny myself and many others the pleasure of playing such a beautiful sport correctly and suitably. This sport is growing in popularity and will very soon become an iconic sport, well within the Wikipedia notability standard. --Raphsaff 15:39, 22 February 2009 — Raphsaff (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Do Not Delete- I enjoy the chance to play G-Ball. However recently there has been dispute over the rules. Hence we have needed to find a appropriate place to add to the rules and conventions pertaining to the game of G-Ball. This had led to the most appropriate forum of Wikipedia. To delete it would also be an impingement on our rights to publish a wikipedia page as well as destroying one of 09's up and coming sports. We beg thee Wikipedia not to delete this beautiful game :). --Franks_dkf 16:57, 22 February 2009 — Franks_dkf (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. See also the following diff:


 * Do Not Delete- I'll be honest, I was quite shocked and appalled to realise that somebody wanted this page deleted. I am new to the game 'G-Ball' and found it extremely difficult to follow the rules and properly understand the game. As i know that Wikipedia is a trustworthy, reliable and above all an educational site, and the knowledge i acquired was priceless. The rules were clearly stated out and the game was explained in great detail. Obviously G-Ball doesn't have the same fan base as international sports such as soccer, basketball and cricket, but how could it? The game is still in its developing stages and it will never gain the recognition it deserves or even a fair go if wikipedia wont even allow it stay on their site. The other reason is that when G-Ball does take off, it will be the owners of Wikipedia who will lose, they had the chance to be part of one of the greatest sporting revolutions of the century but threw it away. People depend on Wikipedia to provide them with information about anything and everything, if this page is removed Wikipedia are just making a mockery of all they stand for and i know at least one person who won't ever come back and use this site and I will never donate again. --Benjamint 16:46, 22 February 2009 — Benjamint (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete. Obviously just an attempt at an end-run around our notability requirements. — Gavia immer (talk) 06:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Creating articles on user pages isn't a way to bypass inclusion requirements. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 08:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. MER-C 09:58, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I respect the rules and regulations enforced by the Wikipedia administrators, but can I request for what reasons this page regarding the rules and regulations of such a fantastic game is marked for deletion? Also, it would help if it was explained in English because I am having a hard time understanding the technical terms and sayings used by the administrators supporting the deletion of said page. It seems to me that the use of "big" and "hard" words are just a cover up for a web administrator who really doesn't have anything better to do than delete pages regarding things they have not experienced, therefore do not understand. To understand and experience G-Ball is far beyond the experience of a typical sport.
 * Example: "Obviously just an attempt at an end-run around our notability requirements." Can you please explain WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN?60.224.68.130 (talk) 10:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)Gr33kb0y
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, therefore it has inclusion (notability) guidelines. You may not use non-article pages as a free web host or to circumvent these guidelines. You have also failed to demonstrate how this subject meets them. MER-C 10:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment The above discussion seems not to deal with the actual proper concerns. Userspace is not required to be encyclopedic, so that part is not important. It is, moreover, true that WP allows more latitude in userspace for those who participate actively in mainspace editing and discussions.  And it is also true that I do not like seeing potential new editors being shooed off rapidly.  I would therefore think that blanking the page with the hope that the user will contribute more substantially after being welcomed to WP would make sense. Collect (talk) 14:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * What you say would make sense had the editor not chosen as username that looks exactly like an article, and had replied to my comment on his talk page instead of choosing to ignore it. Theresa Knott | token threats 18:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The editor is perfectly aware that he is using the page for a use that is not permitted. There is good reason for the rule that Wikipedia is not web host.  DGG (talk) 19:04, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete (maybe move) - It's better off if it's in the main space area (article), but it's not a good idea to have it in your user space unless you're are working on it to go in the main space area.  Versus22 talk 19:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete- As the user of G-Ball (Sport) we are working on this page so that it could be published as an article. We are new users of Wikipedia and do not know how to accomplish that. Before making this page, we followed the guidelines from this page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_page . Tip number 6, it is suggested that we should consider 'creating the article first in your user space As a registered user'. We agree to the comment above, that as creators of G-Ball, we are asking to be moved to the main space area (Article). Thank You
 * Please give us some time to construct our article and gather sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by G-Ball (Sport) (talk • contribs)
 * keep - it could be moved to User:G-Ball (Sport)/sandbox or even to main article space if it can prove notable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a huge "if", though. A bit of poking around online fails to find any references to this game, suggesting that it's something WP:MADEUP. I found one web site ( http://www.gball.co.uk/ ) describing a significantly different sport with the same name, but it appears to be neither related nor notable (the claims made on the site are unsourced and lack credibility). Zetawoof(&zeta;) 04:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a web host. That is what the creator of this page has admitted: he was looking for a place to put up this information. This is not the appropriate place for what, as Graeme Bartlett noted, appears to be a made up game. This would get deleted if it were an article, and given that it's the user's only contribution, it's utterly inappropriate on a user page. —C.Fred (talk) 05:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to http://www.wikihow.com/ --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, sock flood. Also Wikipedia isn't a free webhost. Stifle (talk) 11:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, and clean out the sock drawer. JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. There is a degree of biting here.  This looks like a new user, given his unfamiliarity with our rules and customs.  We all know that this G-Ball thing can't stay, but it would be far preferable if the new user would fix it up himself and maybe even ecome a useful contributor.  Transwikiing would be a positive move for everyone.  At the very least, he should be pointed to Alternative outlets.  There is no need to delete, thus suppressing his history of contributions.  There is no need to get overly excited about a newcomer who seems to have neither been welcomed nor given warnings.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If there is an admin here or passing by, I would be interesting to know if an article G-Ball or G-Ball (Sport) has ever been deleted. I checked the deletion log, but nothing came up, but it does say "recent" deletions... not sure how far back is recent. --Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything in the history for either title; it would normally say if there were deleted edits. —C.Fred (talk) 23:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "Recent" is a relative term. In this case, it means anything in the last few years. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 02:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The valid arguments have been enumerated above. It is clear that the page can't stay. Also, there seem to be a few too many socks in the drawer. Firestorm  Talk 05:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.