Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Keep - Also, a quick look at his contribution history (and of course his comments below) suggests that User:Geo Swan is actively contributing, so he can, should he wish to, continue  to work on his "work in progress". (Similar to any userspace-held "work in progress".) But until that time, I will blank the page as a courtesy, in deference to WP:BLP concerns. (With User:Geo Swan of course free to "unblank", at his discretion.) - jc37 06:47, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar
This is a BLP, albeit in userspace, and has only one reference which briefly mentions him and one other alleged Taliban leader, once and more like side references. The rest I've found in Google are either mirror sites of this one resource or Wikipedia itself. :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  03:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Could this be an article in progress that is not yet ready to have its own page and so, in accordance with all sorts of guidelines, policies and other proscriptions, is being developed on the contributor's page? Isn't this a violation of the general rule of "don't mess with other users' talk pages" or however it is worded?  JimCubb (talk) 18:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. Relatively recent draft by an active editor, with at least one clear reliable source (Der Spiegel) to document any potentially BLP-problematic claims. At AFD I might have a different stance based on notability, but as this is a draft, the notability guidelines do not directly apply. --RL0919 (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This userspace contains problematic BLP claims about a non-notable person. I do not believe that this draft or further improvements to it would survive in the mainspace. The article states: "According to Der Spiegel Qari Jabar was among at least 13 Afghans added to the, at the request of the Bundeswehr. They reported he and Mullah Rustam were added in 2007 and removed in 2009. They reported Qari Jabar was the 77th name on the list." The quoted Der Spiegel source states: "In 2007, the Bundeswehr named two Taliban commanders, who were assigned the file numbers 74 and 77, but Mullah Rustam and Qari Jabar were deleted from the list prior to 2009 due to a lack of evidence." The userspace draft contains little else about Qari Jabar. I cannot find any more coverage about him. I oppose keeping in the userspace negative content about a non-notable living person. Cunard (talk) 08:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inactive draft (until the nomination, when some extra details were added). Suspect that the user is using userspace to store indefinitely articles on terrorists/enemy combatants/etc. which have been correctly deemed non-notable in the deletion process. Stifle (talk) 09:15, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Rather, what I suspect the user is doing is to keep incomplete articles for people who can reasonably expected to be found notable as information becomes available, an entirely proper purpose of user space. I think it reasonable to keep those for which there are not yet anygood sources off wiki, but similarly to keep on-wiki those that have at least one such. I recall earlier discussion about questioned notability for people in these groups who have then or  since been found   notable--along with those that have not been. As long as the ed. is having a moderate success rate with these, his work is process is acceptable user space content.    DGG ( talk ) 04:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. It seems to me to fit into ...trial workings and drafts, notes... - an acceptable use for user subpages.  All this users' subpages are also clearly marked as NOT AN ARTICLE.  One-sidedness is a reason to keep it in talk space, not to delete it. -Addionne (talk) 19:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep DGG′s guess is correct. I did anticipate more info will emerge on Qari Jabar.  The page is protected with __NOINDEX__, so I don′t see it being a problem in fooling anyone into thinking it is an actual article.  No, Stifle′s guess is incorrect, this is not previously deleted material.  Geo Swan (talk) 12:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I think the best next step might be to consider creating a main-space article on the Joint Prioritized Effects List. there are lots of other references for the list. I suggest devoting a portion of that article to Qari Jabar and Mullah Rustam would be perfectly appropriate.  Geo Swan (talk) 02:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.