Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:God of War/Tyranny and Fascism - Past and Present (2)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was speedy close. I am presenting no result other than to close this discussion. The previous deletion was only closed four days prior to this nomination as no consensus. I find it hard to believe any consensus will have developed in the intervening period. I would remind one and all of WP:AGF. Hiding talk 21:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

User:God of War/Tyranny and Fascism - Past and Present
This is not constructively assisting the encyclopedia. Nor do I see any reason for it to be kept here rather than on an free blog or personal word document. In the previous deletion discussion I noted that there were reasoning for keep votes as "it doesn't hurt", "free speech" and "its an good plaything". The userspace's creator also failed to give any reasoning for creation of the article, and neglected to construct an thesis for its purpose. This is almost certanly an case of violating WP:POINT and various other policies such as WP:NPOV, WP:NOT, WP:UP and even meets the critera for WP:CSD.

Such an article that violates so many policies is not acceptable.

I note that no edits have been made to this "article" since then, and is really only to push an biased point of view. This is an encyclopedia. No where in policy does it state that blogging is allowed, nor does it state editors are allowed playthings. This does not serve an purpose in our goal. If God of War could formulate an valid reason how this exsistance assists the site's informative nature and professional quality, then I would be willing to withdraw this deletion. -ZeroTalk 15:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep, as users have wide latitude in user space. This just recently survived MFD, and may qualify for a speedy keep. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 16:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Note - User:God of War/POV Box, a subpage transcluded in it, has been separately nominated for deletion. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 16:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep We just did this a few days ago, Zero. The last debate only closed within a week. Xoloz 16:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * And it violates policy. Such things don't remain on wikipedia weather they were kept or not.
 * Perhaps you should read the userspace policy. WP:UP states:


 * Anything that is compatible with the Wikipedia project. It's a mistake to think of it as a homepage.


 * If you need more pages, you can create subpages. More or less, you can have anything here that you might have on your user or user talk page, a work in progress, until it is ready to be released, archives of user talk, tests; for testing a template.


 * On what is userpage isn't for, it says:

Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general hosting service, so your user page is not a personal homepage. Your page is about you as a Wikipedian. Examples of unrelated content include:

* A weblog relating your non-Wikipedia activities * Extensive discussion not related to Wikipedia * Excessive personal information (more than a couple of pages) * Personal statements that could be considered polemical, such as opinions on matters unrelated to Wikipedia * Opinion pieces not related to Wikipedia or other non-encyclopedic material * Games, roleplaying sessions, and other things that fall into "entertainment" rather than "writing an encyclopedia," particularly if they involve people who are not active participants in the project * Communications with people uninvolved with the project * Images which you are not free to use (see below)

In general, if you have material that you do not wish for others to edit, or that is otherwise inappropriate for Wikipedia, it should be placed on a personal web site. Many free and low-cost web hosting, email, and weblog services are widely available, and are a good alternative for content unrelated to Wikipedia. You might also want to consider Wikicities for wiki-style community collaboration.

As well as:

As a tradition, Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. However, pages in user space still do belong to the community:

* Contributions must be licensed under the GFDL, just as articles are. * Other users may edit pages in your user space, although by convention your user page will usually not be edited by others. * Community policies, including Wikipedia:No personal attacks, apply to your user space just as they do elsewhere. * In some cases, material that does not somehow further the goals of the project may be removed (see below).

In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct typos and other mistakes. Some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect. Other users may object and ask you not to edit their user pages, and it is probably sensible to respect their requests. The best option is to draw their attention to the matter on their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so. In some cases a more experienced editor may make a non-trivial edit to your userpage, in which case that editor should leave a note on your talk page explaining why this was done. This should not be done for trivial reasons. -ZeroTalk 17:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing you'd said changes the fact that we went through this. You need to let it rest.  The result was no consensus, as the previous discussion concluded that a minimally rephrased copy of the Declaration violated no policy significantly enough to overwhelm the user's traditional userspace allowance.  The points you make here are the same made previously, with more words. Xoloz 17:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, per recent consensus. Let me clear up a few additional points about the policies brought up. NPOV does not apply, as this is not an article. POINT does not apply, as I don't believe that this page was created to disrupt Wikipedia. CSD doesn't apply either. I'm curious, under what criterion would you speedy delete this? By the way, if you find a page that you believe qualifies for speedy deletion, tag it as such instead of bringing it to a *FD discussion.  Pagra shtak  17:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - This MFD just closed less than a week ago. Why are we having it again so soon?This link says all I have to say.--God Ω War 19:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy-Keep renom violates WP:POINT --Moby 07:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


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