Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ha56ha26/Ruin/Renewal

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: redirect to Ruin/Renewal. If mainspace page gets deleted, this'll go too. If not, history is preserved for attribution reasons. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

User:Ha56ha26/Ruin/Renewal


5 year abandoned YAMB Legacypac (talk) 15:35, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:YAMB is an essay, and even so the subject doesn't fit what the essay describes. What is the policy or guideline-based reason this was brought to MfD? VQuakr (talk) 00:59, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course YAMB applies to this page. But how about WP:NOTAWEBHOST for a page on your WP:YAMB that has been abandoned for 5 years and will never be promoted to mainspace and should not be indefinitely kept in the stale userspace of a long gone user. User:SmokeyJoe will be along to comment on the applicability of WP:YAMB Legacypac (talk) 07:00, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Which of the 9 specific points raised in WP:YAMB apply to this subject? VQuakr (talk) 07:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, Ruin/Renewal is an existing article (not super well-sourced, but zero links to MySpace). Delete then per WP:UPC. VQuakr (talk) 07:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Not signed to any label; (check. they have a couple EPs - the label is not notable and based in a place with 75 people.) The evidence points to a band that created an EP in June 2011 in a private studio, got a little explicitly local radio play in Dec 2011 and played a few clubs and a grocery store, before breaking up before May 2012 when the next release was due. This page was created between March 9-15, 2012 by a single purpose acct. . An actual Myspace link is not required to be a Myspace band, but here it is Given this evidence VQuakr are you prepared to vote delete? Legacypac (talk) 07:44, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Lots of unsourced, promotional statements ("One of the hottest bands in the scene today" or "The East Coast's premier [add obscure genre] band") (page is too short for this)
 * No albums released, or only a self-produced CD they gave to their friends or make available free online; (Here they are giving away albums online for free. ]
 * Only play at minor local venues, such as local bars and restaurants; (check - according to their website "Ruin/Renewal has performed throughout Boston area, including such venues as TT the Bear’s Place and the Worcester Palladium. The band has also performed at numerous venues in New York, including Arlene’s Grocery, Lit Lounge, and the Trash Bar. In 2011, they performed as part of the O+ Festival in Kingston, New York.")
 * Written by the band, which is generally (likely, or maybe their "label")
 * Made up entirely of teenagers; (appears they started as teens, but are not now) and
 * The only "sources" supporting the notability of the band are Myspace pages, Facebook pages and user-edited websites and fansites (Check - sourced to their label website, which is not updated "Ruin/Renewal’s follow-up, Chess Club EP (due May 2012, Burst & Bloom Records)" a link to the private studio they used and the bands dead website.
 * the last point talks about a RS unrelated to the band (Not provided)
 * Redirect to Ruin/Renewal, and wait to see if that is deleted at Articles for deletion/Ruin/Renewal. This band may not meet WP:YAMB, is it has a proper webpage at https://burstandbloomrecords.com/artists/ruin-renewal/.  NB. This is a non-independent promotional webpage, not attesting to notability, merely verification.  As there is a proper verifying source, it is not the YAMB, wished-for-new-speedy-deletion-criteria.  It is still all promotion, but not G11-able on a quick look.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.