Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Heymikeyatl/sandbox

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Ə XPLICIT 01:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Heymikeyatl/sandbox

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Unsourced promotional micronation b.s. Delete per WP:PROMOTION and WP:NOTAWEBHOST Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Good afternoon.


 * I am Michael J. Fanning, Atlanta Blogger and Journalists. The information I posted is both verifiable and violates not copyrights.  Nor is this propaganda but a mere statement of facts that are verifiable in other media (i.e, books, articles, etc. listed in the reference section).  If formatting is an issue please advise.  As to the claim of unsourced promotional micronation b.s. the article spoke to documents publicly filed, published, and verifiable.  The organization seeking UN recognition has a public petition with over a thousand supporters and is working with other organizations groups, and governments, to seek admittance to the United Nations.  Was your assertion that this is b.s. referring to the notion of the organization seeking statehood under the precepts outlined by the United Nations, or in reference to the social cause they list as the impetus for their work?  Ones personal beliefs should not be sufficient to bar verifiable facts from public entry to the encyclopedia. The subject of this article has been featured in the Atlanta Voice, on various domestic and international news cites, as well as reference in books. Please list what facts are in question or went without citation and they can be responded to directly.  Is it your and or Wikipedia's stance that a civil service organization seeking to create solutions for racial equality with membership and support in the thousands is not noteworthy?  Please Advise Heymikeyatl (talk) 20:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you've got a blog already, that's the perfect place for this kind of material. It is not what Wikipedia is intended for. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, this is some real WP:FRINGE stuff here. —  csc -1 22:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - hoax and/or fringe theory that is clearly not going to make it to mainspace. ƒirefly  ( t · c ) 22:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As a matter of Wikipedia policy, any material included in the encyclopedia should be verifiable from reliable sources which are independent of the subject, and should maintain a neutral point of view.  This page, were it to be submitted as a mainspace article, would be subject to speedy deletion as overly promotional, and does not establish that you are notable enough (in Wikipedia's sense of the term) to merit an article here.  Further, we strongly discourage autobiographies and other editing where a conflict of interest is involved.  As for your edits to Bir Tawil, the sources provided are your own website (not independent), and a self-published book (not even close to being reliable), which fall far short if the sourcing we would want to see even if your claim were valid.
 * As for declaring it to be "promotional micronation b.s.", I wouldn't have put it quite that way, but you have to understand that Bir Tawil has been claimed as a new nation by hundreds of people over the years, and we've had to revert material for literally dozens of these claims from the article thereon because they were equally (or more) inadequately sourced than your claim here, and no more (or less) valid, and to editors who keep watch over this article it can seem like an endless game of Whac-A-Mole. Besides, in my personal opinion I'd rank your claim well behind those of this bloke in England who bothered to have an actual coronation ceremony or this guy who at least made the effort to travel to Bir Tawil to lay his claim. --Finngall talk  23:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If all the people who have claimed Bir Tawil over the years were actually forced to live there, there'd probably be enough of them to create a viable community. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Except that all of them would insist that they're in charge of the place. --Finngall talk  23:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - A user sandbox is user space, and U5 applies, in addition to the other reasons cited above. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.