Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hobartimus/sandbox2

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  history merge with Sarah Palin email hack. JohnCD (talk) 11:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

User:Hobartimus/sandbox2
WP:STALEDRAFT, completely untouched after userfication. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 22:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It's full of stuff. Can somewhere say whether it has any value for mainspace?  If not, it can't stay in userspace.  If yes, it should go there, or at least to the talk page, and not stay in userspace.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:56, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you not read WP:STALEDRAFT? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 00:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That term gets tossed around so willy nilly that it is next to meaningless. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Seriously, I suspect that there is good faith, good quality work appropriate for mainspace in there, or at least worthy for consideration of interested editors. Suggest consideration '''copy to Talk:Sarah Palin.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Which would break the attribution — it'd no longer be attributed to whoever first made it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It is sufficient to list the contributors. Try the "Download as PDF" link in the toolbox to see an example.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What a sad story this was, it all transpired back in 2008. 1. There was an article deleted at Afd. 2. I asked and received opportunity from an admin to develop the article in user space and present a much improved version at Drv for consideration. 3. Someone circumvented this planned Drv by simply recreating the article via renaming another article to cover the same topic. 4. Not even an RFM was put in, when the article was moved. 5. This renamed article was filled up by copy pasted content from various individual articles and the content I was writing in my user space, which was linked multiple times at the article's talk page.
 * By this second recreation the article topic was much more notable so it was not challanged at Afd this second time. Since the article was recreated in this backdoor way I had no opportunity to move this draft to article space. It's pretty much useless now other than showing the original revisions from which some part of the main article was copy pasted back in 2008. Hobartimus (talk) 12:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like a history merge of User:Hobartimus/sandbox2 and Sarah Palin email hack is desirable as a cautious precaution. The histories are entirely non-overlapping, so it should be simple.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.