Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hommedespoir/Walter Burien Jr

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete. Spartaz Humbug! 19:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Hommedespoir/Walter Burien Jr


Userspace copy of an article deleted in an AfD: Articles for deletion/Walter J. Burien Jr..  Acroterion   (talk)   21:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, Hommedespoir has only 4 edits and does not appear to be working on this, it's been long enough. --Nuujinn (talk) 21:59, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

You may be correct in saying that hommedespoir has only 4 edits, Nuujinn.... I'm surprised I managed that many.... but any merely-human typer who's not accustomed to the arcane world of the encyclopedia feels more than slightly disadvantaged with occult demands for sourced material and rejection of original material. But forgive his attention span failing to outlast his patience when one of the learned objectors demanding deletion cannot get her/s G**gl* search sufficiently accurate as to find any results at all for one of the exact terms pertaining to the subject of the unlearned article. If it's been that long enough, maybe less-educated readers prefer a return to the dismally-unacademic world of my more-common bloggery. hommerdespoir


 * If you want some help, I'm glad to oblige. What I mean was that you're not very active and it doesn't appear that the article has had any work done on it. --Nuujinn (talk) 23:38, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Move to project We can't delete an draft that may have pontential just because it was lying there! We should move it to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Walter Burien Jr. There, the project members can make it better, or get someone to adopt it.   Ebe 123  talkContribs 23:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, the article went through AFD, was found wanting and was userfied so that it could be worked on, and it's been there untouched since. --Nuujinn (talk) 00:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It will get better at the wikiproject and become suitable for mainspace. The project takes stale drafts.   Ebe 123  talkContribs 18:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No offense, but have you looked for significant coverage in reliable sources for the subject? That's the key issue, I think, and none were found at the AFD. I'm open to reconsidering my views, but I see no value in retaining the article unless someone can point to some sources. I would have improved it myself had I or others found sources. --Nuujinn (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:UP. I agree with above that the page should not be moved to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Walter Burien Jr. A Google News Archive search returns no indication that there are reliable sources about this individual. Because no work has been done on the userspace draft since the July 2010 Articles for deletion/Walter J. Burien Jr., and because WikiProject Abandoned Drafts is for articles on topics that are likely notable, this page should be deleted. I will reconsider my position if there is an indication from reliable sources that Walter Burien Jr. is notable. Cunard (talk) 07:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - user has not been contacted about the userspace page before MfD. User should have been given opportunity to fix content or request CSD U1. --Surturz (talk) 20:42, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure I understand. The page was moved to user space following the AFD to give them the opportunity to clean it up. That hasn't happened. --Nuujinn (talk) 23:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, this is a volunteer project and it costs very little to be polite. In my opinion the user should have been given a final chance to fix up the content or voluntarily request CSD U1, as per the guidelines at the top of the MfD page. --Surturz (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * They have a chance even now. Hell, if you can find some reliable sources providing significant coverage, I'll clean it up myself and move it to mainspace. --Nuujinn (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - stale draft not being worked on, with no realistic chance of making it into mainspace. I just did a search on this guy and couldn't find any coverage in reliable sources, so I don't think this would survive AFD if it was taken back there. Robofish (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom and Cunard. -- Klein zach  09:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.