Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hooliganb/sandbox

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. No consensus to delete. If it's causing problems by sitting in categories or something then blanking it is a legitimate option. This is different than people writing up fantasy seasons of Drag Race - this appears to have been created in a good-faith attempt to make the Season 5 article, but someone else got there first. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

User:Hooliganb/sandbox

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Abandoned user sandbox page, no longer serving any useful purpose. Technically this is another "Drag Race misrepresentation" page, taking the introduction from Season 4 and pairing it with the contestant list from Season 5 -- but in this case I don't think it was actually meant to represent anything. It was started a few days after the Season 5 cast was announced, at a time when the Season 5 article hadn't been started yet, so it was simply a good faith attempt to start the Season 5 article by using the Season 4 article as a template -- but then the Season 5 mainspace article got started by somebody else pretty much concurrently with this, so since it wasn't necessary anymore the creator just abandoned it instead of finishing the job they had started. But the result is that this hasn't had any substantive edits in eight years, the creator hasn't edited Wikipedia at all in seven years, and since the mainspace article exists this isn't needed. Bearcat (talk) 15:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well within reasonable leeway for the sandbox of an editor with 1300 mainspace edits. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * A sandbox page that's been completely abandoned for seven years, which while it has more defensible reasons than usual is still not actually an accurate representation of the topic and would mislead anybody who came across it, may technically fall under the rubric of "reasonable leeway", but it doesn't fall under the much more critically important rubric of "useful or valuable". If anything, WP:NOTWEBHOST applies. Bearcat (talk) 13:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Before your MfD nomination produced another 12 page views, it had 3 pageviews in the preceding 90 days. This is strong evidence against WEBHOSTING.  The page being in userspace, and being titled "Sandbox", makes it nonplausible that someone will be misled.  No one looks at userspace unless already a Wikipedian, and it is a sandbox.  More harm is likely to come to the community from collateral damages of people overzealously trying to police others' userspace.  I call is "will within reasonable leeway".  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Three views in 90 days is three more views than an objectively inaccurate and functionally misleading page should have had in that time regardless of what namespace it is or isn't in. The only legitimate reason to keep something like this would be if it were useful somehow. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The use of a user sandbox is for them to play around in. That fits the apparent use of this sandbox.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The use of a user sandbox is to work on stuff that's meant to be returned to mainspace, not just to play around freely in the sense of doing just anything you damn please for the lulz. Bearcat (talk) 13:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - And the purpose of keeping it in a sandbox for a departed editor is ... what? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Assuming a departed user is departed forever is a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you went away for a few years, and returned to find your userspace deleted, would that make you more, or less, likely to start contributing again?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If I went away for as long as this user's been away (more than half of an entire decade), I most likely wouldn't remember that I'd even left any sandbox content at all. For that matter, I also would almost certainly not remember my old password anymore — and since I've changed my primary e-mail address three times in the past seven years, I wouldn't even be able to recover my password because I wouldn't be able to access the account I had originally registered under either. So if I'd left in 2013 and were coming back now, I would have to start a new account. Bearcat (talk) 17:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and blank with inactive userpage blanked if desired. No need to list such pages here. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 09:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.