Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:HurricaneSpin/List of User:IPhonehurricane95 Sockpuppets

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User:HurricaneSpin/List of User:IPhonehurricane95 Sockpuppets


Simple WP:DNFTT, and this is redundant to existing categories.

Note that on multiple occasions, the page maintainer has been persistently told that range blocks on active ranges are generally not possible due to high usage; see Sockpuppet investigations/IPhonehurricane95/Archive. Primary page maintainer has also been warned, blocked, and unblocked for persistent disruptive behavior in pursuing IPhonehurricane95's sockpuppetry. Cloudchased (talk) 02:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:DNFTT is an essay, not a policy. The page maintainer behavior is not really relevant. Not all of these socks have been confirmed. I think it's a reasonably appropriate user page. YE Pacific  Hurricane 04:32, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You've got suspected sock templates for that. Cloudchased (talk) 12:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep The purpose of that page is to keep track of his socks, as well as to provide easy access to their userpages (especially for admins). If any user takes its purpose the wrong way, it's not the fault of the writers. It's also really useful for monitoring his socks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it's any more useful than having a sock category, and the ranges, being active, generally can't be blocked without causing "collateral damage". It'd be like having a userpage listing sockpuppets of JA; there's no purpose in it. Cloudchased (talk) 12:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That may be, but this page keeps everything in one place (which is really convenient by the way), and it has more links and info than the category pages themselves. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:56, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Page seems quite useful and actively maintained.  It contains annotations and cross-references to other wikis so it is not redundant with a category.  If this page documents a long-term problem the maintainer should be encouraged to migrate it to a subpage of WP:LTA. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That is the case, but I have been told by other admins (even the one who recommended me to file an LTA Report) that an LTA at this point would only document his disruptive history, so I don't know what I would do about that. If an LTA Report for this user won't be created, then that's another reason to keep this page. LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This page is definitely needed because the IP socks are no longer in the Suspected Socks category for this sockmaster, which means that this page is definitely not redundant. Additionally, this page contains cross-references to socks in other Wikimedia Projects, as noted by another user above. If need be, the information can be transferred to an LTA Report for IPhonehurricane95, if it is created. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:51, 23 March 2014 (UTC)


 * It seems that a consensus has been reached to keep the page. Close? LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - I do not see that we need to keep a sandbox on all of IPhonehurricane95 suspected sockpuppets, when the main author of the is using it to stalk these IPs/suspected sockpuppets to the point where it could be considered harassment by a court of law. Also i do not see why we need a list of suspected ip ranges when administrators generally dont comment on IP sockpuppets. I would also like to hear the opinion of and .Jason Rees (talk) 12:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see the usefulness of this page, and I completely reject the nominator's DNFTT argument. But it seems strange to have it in userspace. IPhonehurricane95 has quite a rap sheet at SPI, to the point where it's pretty difficult to read. What if we moved this page to the talk page of the SPI? --BDD (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That could be a little inconvenient, because it may be a little more difficult for users to see the list, if they have to access the talk page in order to view it. Additionally, the purpose of talk pages is to host discussions, notifications, etc., not lists or article-like content (from my experience), but that's just my opinion. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:41, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * As to Jason Rees' comment, I am not using the page to "stalk" or "harass" the user. I am merely using it for the purpose intended by the author/writer(s), to keep track of his socks, and his contributions, especially since a majority of the listed socks aren't on any of the sock categories for IPhonehurricane95. As a matter of fact, he has harassed me multiple times (both as an IP and a registered user), including my Wikipedia Commons account, whereas I try to ignore his personal attacks, which itself is a legit form of harassment. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.