Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Itzcoatzin

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 11:10, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Itzcoatzin


WP:FAKEARTICLE. User has been using this page to gather and collate his personal research, but has been told on multiple occasions that this material is not appropriate for an article, so the gathering here can not be considered the development of an actual article, but rather simply as a free holding are for the author's personal research. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:39, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

All my data is supported by wikipedia, and historical books
As stated before my reasearch is supported by wikipedia in spanish and in english. The data represents who i am and its my profile.?

You can add a note if you wish that states that is not a wikipedia entry but its my personal profile.

It shows who i am and my history. Personal data can be kept in personal user page?

I have shared this data with many History experts and they agree with my reasarch.

Not to mention the fact that i have given all data that wikidan has in surname zambrano, i hope my name is well recognice as the main source of the data.

And also my reasearc shows the origen and several surnames that the data can be shared in the wikis.

Haro, Durango, Lopez etc.

But if you do deside to delete my work i request the code of all the templaes so that i can use the data in other wikis. Mainly the reference list, and the family tree that holds many book of importance to the subject. In the family tree i show family infromation of many other high nobles in spain. And i have shared this info with all the wikis that are in my work.

Sample the mula castle and the fajardo history. to name one of the many. My reasearch can be cross reference with the wikis that i have added to my work to get more detail information. To name one the bane qsi one i am sure i started that one.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) 19:42, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Lords of viscaya in my work and how its relevant
This data can be added to the lords of viscaya and all names listed in the re3ference.

In this reference its reads the list of the lords of viscaya and their date of birth. Numericaly by their service. Fortun Sanchez the first Zambrana is lested and his father and brother and grandfather.

As my work stated Lope Fortunez who was recorded as coat of arms Zuriain. And his Scotish Palaca references in my work.

Sancho Lopez who was a vassal for the mendoza family. references in my work. One showing a first marriage with the queen of leon Urraca and Zambranos mention in the monuments well recorded in the story of el cid. La puerta de dona Urraca and Zambrano palace that was named los zambranos de la reina.

Fortun Sanchez Squire to 2 kings and service and awarded zambrana on the 3rd.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk)

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

"'Wikipedians have their own user pages, but they should be used primarily to present information relevant to working on the encyclopedia. Limited biographical information is allowed, but user pages should not function as personal webpages or be repositories for large amounts of material that is irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia. If you are looking to make a personal webpage or blog or to post your résumé, please make use of one of the many free providers on the Internet or any hosting included with your Internet account.'"
 * Comment The value of this material as the potential for a Wikipedia article has been discussed and dismissed at multiple venues (see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Fortun(o) Sanchez (Sangiz) Grandee Zambrana and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Itzcoatzin/sandbox). I don't see that this discussion will result in any different outcome.  Since the material is not suitable for a Wikipedia article, it would appear that the only reason for amassing it is to use Wikipedia as a Webhost, which is clearly not the intention of Wikipedia.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:27, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete This is just some weird gobbledygook. I don't see anything that can be moved to proper articles. This user, who has edited only very narrow range of topics, seems to have a history of creating dubious personal research in their userspace. jni (delete)...just not interested 18:36, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Itzcoatzin, you wrote above: "Personal data can be kept in personal user page?" The answer is no, see WP:NOTWEBHOST:
 * I advise you to make an off-line copy now, but if it is deleted before you have done that, I will be happy to email you a copy. JohnCD (talk) 10:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Jonhcd can you provide me with the temples? i need the ref templates and the family tree templates.

Wikidan is fucking rediculous, many wikis have added my infromation to theri wikis with out giving me credit. He is just lazy to read it all, i bet he is doing it only becuse he cant read the books. I have quoted histirical treasures books from spain, all related to the zambrana history, that are conected with several other articles.

Arcos del Alcanzar in Baeza my work in my sand boxs show how the zambrana are part of all the prime coat of arms of Spain. And the history of every book adds greater detail on many wikies.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk)

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) 19:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment The fact that the Coat of Arms of Spain and the Zambrana Family Coat of Arms both include castles (a reference, in both cases, to the Kingdom of Castile; the former referencing Castile as one of the constituents of unified Spain and the latter referencing it as the family homeland) should not be mistaken for a sign that the Coat of Arms of Spain derives from the Zambrana Coat of Arms. As for the rest, I would just remind Jose to maintain civility, and remember that I am not the only Wikipedian who has read your various writings and found them unusable for Wikipedia content.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:09, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Coat of arms include what is called prime symbols, Zambrana is a prime coat of arms from castile. Castile family. As i shown in my work.

The same as the l;ords of VIscaya that have prime symbol sable wolf, Like Zuriain, all the related families to Zuriain wil have sable wolf.

The Same way prime Oak tree arbol de gizpacho, Sobreabo related families.

Zambrana is a Prime Coat of arms for Zambrana and zambrano, Related to Castile families.


 * Jonhcd can you help me do an import?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Import

I need the templates.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk)

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - User pages have some leeway in content, and a limited amount of biographical information is appropriate, but in this case, the amount is well in excess of what could reasonably be deemed as limited. The user page is clearly being used to document the ditor's genealogical research.  This material is not suitable for Wikipedia as an encyclopedia article.  I suggest the editor look at alternative outlets for publishing his personal research on his family history. -- Whpq (talk) 15:30, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


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