Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jj102786




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  keep. Killiondude (talk) 06:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Jj102786
User is using Wikipedia as a webhost to host his biography  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me,  My Contribs ) 10:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and counsel user on WP:WEBHOST. - Jeremy  ( v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!! ) 10:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:WEBHOST. User hasn't contributed in any other way than copy pasting his biography . Clearly tries to use WP as a host.  Ilyushka88  Talk to me 10:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep In fact, user's first edit at 8:48 a/m/ was to Mandibular fracture. The claim that there was no other contribution is incorrect. Then started a user page at 9:28 which was marked for deletion at 10:36.  An hour or so as a user -- and WP:BITE is here as clearly as one could wish.   Note also that userspace allows a short c.v., whoch this does not appear to violate in any way, shape, manner or form.  And note that this is a great example for how we treat newcomers -- even if they actually do edit elsewhere first.  Within an hour of a userpage - they get dragged in WP processes.  Basta. Collect (talk) 11:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thank you for clearing that up. For some reason I didn't notice his first edit. My apologies.  Ilyushka88  Talk to me 11:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've deleted a couple of attempts this user made to include this content in the mainspace, where they clearly don't belong. I've got no problem with this on their userspace though, for the reasons Collect mentions. Poor guy's talk page is littered with templates, this just seems so bitey. Ged  UK  11:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment see my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jj102786/Joshua Lee Jones--Jj102786 (talk) 09:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Link title' Born Oct 27th 1986 @ Blytheville, Arkansas @ 9:14pm 23 yrs of age male,white Caucasion American raised Religion:Pentocostal,Church of God; also I should note that if an option was available to remove all the family history bit (just keep the first bit on the page as far as the user's religion), then I would find that acceptable. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a short note might have worked better than a page of templates, then? Occasionally, WP seems to love process far too much. Collect (talk) 12:09, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa, Collect! I have left a "human" message on the user's talk page, apologising for not contacting them before the MfD - and giving the advice that I would have given had I done so. It's late, but hopefully better than nothing. However, I still feel that should the user not modify this page to remove the family history bits, it should be deleted. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering well over 1,600 editors refer to their genealogy in userspace, is it possible you might be too restrictive? 7,000 have "father" and "mother" on a user page.  Referencex to family are, in fact, common on WP in userspace.   As long as COPPA is not involved, I really do not see the need to police this sort of thing. Collect (talk) 14:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep within the leeway permitted for a user page, but please educate the user. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Users are allowed to write a short personal biography of themselves on their userpages, so long as it does not include "excessive personal information (more than a couple of pages)," which this one does not. See WP:UP. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 23:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment As I have commented on its MfD, User:Jj102786/Joshua Lee Jones--Jj102786 (talk) 09:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Link title' Born Oct 27th 1986 @ Blytheville, Arkansas @ 9:14pm 23 yrs of age male,white Caucasion American raised Religion:Pentocostal,Church of God is basically a copy of this user page. Should the decision be made to keep this user page (as it appears is likely at the moment), I would recommend that the other one be deleted as an unneccessary duplication. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not simply ask the user he he would like the duplicate blanked? Collect (talk) 11:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware of a policy allowing duplicates. If there was a substantial difference in content, I would suggest that if one was kept, they should both be kept - but as they are duplicates, they are not both required, and it makes sense to delete the other copy, as it has such an unnecessarily long title - and moving it to a short title wouldn't make sense, as it's a duplicate. There are no indications that the editor has been on Wikipedia since this page was created (no further edits have been made). If you can think of a reason for keeping a duplicate copy of a user page, based on a policy or guideline, I'd be interested in hearing it. Yes, ideally we would ask the user if they would like it blanked, but policy does not require that in the case of a duplicate, does it? --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 15:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, but ask user to practice wikiformatting to make it visually more appealing. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.