Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jmbranum/Travis Bishop

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Deleted as G7. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:47, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

User:Jmbranum/Travis Bishop


Userfyed in 2010 and abandoned. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Articles for deletion/Travis Bishop. Niteshift36, please link the AfD discussions in future.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see any new sources out there, nothing post 2012, so nothing to change the situation post-AFD. Jmbranum should be required to produce new sources that demonstrate development since the AfD.  Delete until this is done.  An offline copy may be kept, but on Wikipedia consensus was to delete it and nothing has changed, and the subject appears to be a now-private living person and we default to delete on these.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:11, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the original AfD obviously but more recent press coverage is about Bishop's music career post-US Army.   So I doubt this would satisfy the prevailing consensus on notability. --Jmbranum (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouragement to create a copy that is no on wikipedia. It can be found here: --Jmbranum (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * If those are the sources you plan to add, plan on it getting nominated again. The CMT one isn't significant coverage at all. Spinditty is well written enough, but still just a Hubpage that is accepting user entries. The Reverb Nation one, like the CMT one, has no coverage. To be honest, I question is the country music Travis Bishop is the same one as the convicted felon this article is about. Do you have anything connecting the two? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Important correction... Bishop was not convicted of a felony. US military courts-martials do not designate crimes under the terms of felony and misdemeanor, but most US states and the feds define a felony as being a crime in which the defendant receives 12 months or more of jail time. Additionally federal law normally defines a DD (dishonorable discharge) as a felony. In Bishop's case he was tried in a special court-martial (which capped jail time at 12 months or less and no worse than a BCD- Bad Conduct discharge), however he did receive a 12 month sentence from the military judge, which would put him in felony territory... except that when the sentence was sent to the convening authority for review (through the RCM 1105 process), the commanding general granted a 3 month reduction in confinement, which means Bishop was not convicted of a felony. (see ) --Jmbranum (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * He was sentenced to 12 months or more. State and federal courts recognize that as a felony, even if the actual confinment was less than 12 months. Regardless, those sources are not going to get past GNG. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * With regards to the question of whether country singer Travis Bishop is the same person as war resister Travis Bishop, here is one source that documents him being the same person: --Jmbranum (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * An actual reliable source would be nice. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * DO NOT DELETE I can update with additional sources and information. --Jmbranum (talk) 05:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * * In the interests of fairness, I was Bishop's civilian defense attorney and am still his friend, so I readily admit my lack of objectivity. I have backed up the article (and republished it elsewhere) and would not object to the deletion of the article from my userspace, if that is the consensus opinion of the editors reviewing this article. --Jmbranum (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, where you claim Wikipedia "trigger happy" editors have censored you. I read it. Nothing like assuming good faith. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:42, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * * Additional sources for those interested in a bit of the history of the Bishop case:
 * Again, we deal in reliable sources. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:42, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.