Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jolly momma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep. There is agreement that the latest versions aren't particular problematic and no reason to assume that previous versions are going to be resurrected nor that deleting them would help in resolving the underlying disputes. Tikiwont (talk) 08:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Jolly momma
Wikipedia is not a free web host service. macy 16:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not a web host page. It is a set of rules and explanations due to attacks by Theosis4u. Jolly momma (talk) 17:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC) Keep in mind, though, that no one is mentioned by name and that he claims his innocence.  It simply reminds me how to deal with people who inject personal attacks into what should be rational discussions.  Jolly momma (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What you should do is look at the above named attacker's page. Look at the changes he's made on his talk page which attempt to justify his incivil behavior.  Notice, too, the many insults and attacks this person has made on me in the discussion of "the political positions of Sarah Palin".  This page is here to remind me of the difference between civil behavior, and incivil behavior.  His expansion of and changes to that page has always followed his insulting attacks on me, though he'd deny it, as he denies the smart remarks were directed at me.  This page is simply my own response to incivility and boorish behavior: the difference between one who attacks, and one who remains civil, asking the other to stop.  Jolly momma (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC) If you can keep Theosis4u from behaving churlishly, and remind him what civil behavior is, then I have no objections to this page's removal.  But the attacks must stop. Jolly momma (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what you are talking about. Your user page has too much information that it's not appropriate for user pages. macy 22:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Then go ahead and remove it. However, I am going to ask you one more time to look on the discussion pages of "the political positions of Sarah Palin" under the "predator control- gunning/shooting/etc",, the "water section", and "polar bears" sections for the responses given by Theosis4u, which have been rude, insulting, and condescending.  Also look on his talk page at the bottom, and you'll find a section where he's attempted to justify his bullying behavior, but PLEASE look at the originial pages, not the changes he's made.  He cannot remain civil.  since there appears to be nothing I can do about this (he denies it, although someone else even comments on it, and he calls us both liars), and he will not remain civil no matter how many times I ask, I am asking you to help me.  Incivility is not supposed to be tolerated here. Jolly momma (talk) 22:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed most of what was on the page. I am interested in what made you look at it in the first place, however. Jolly momma (talk) 00:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Blank. I don't think there's a problem with Jolly momma having a user page, but this is taking it too far. Move it to some type of dispute resolution page. Jolly momma isn't an exemplar of civility either. Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 18:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have tried to remain civil to theo. Pointing out that I object to being called a liar is hardly incivil.  Perhaps that's why my thoughts on that subject are on this page and I have repeatedly asked him to calm down and be nice.  However, you might want to view his edits to his own page, on the 13th and the 11th of September, as he is pushing a POV which he makes more than plain. As stated before, recent edits to his own user page also bear this out. If you want to erase this page, go ahead,  but I don't think it would be fair to not allow me to have a user page.  Heck, I'll erase everything on it now if you like.  Just don't compare my behavior to someone who delights in being a bully, or calling people liars, etc.  Jolly momma (talk) 19:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You certainly are allowed to have a user page. It's just preferred that you avoid collecting information about someone on it unless you're preparing some kind of dispute resolution. Try going to that link and reading about how to resolve the dispute. Just remember not to use such strong wording when objecting to being called a liar. It's okay to object, just avoid personal attacks. Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 01:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Deletion is not needed here. -- Ned Scott 04:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * History only deletion from 17:06, 27 September 2008 and before. -- Suntag  ☼  15:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * keep at least the current version. I do not actually see anything wrong with it, though I tend to word similar sentiments a little differently.  DGG (talk) 00:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * keep I'm sure there's worse on other user pages. Though Jolly_Momma might want to use more caution in using to much information to allow other to identify her real person (if she put back the other information). Theosis4u (talk) 01:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

That information will stay off the page, although I don't think any rational person would be interested enough to find out my real identity. Jolly momma (talk) 14:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.