Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  procedural close, already deleted. Avic ennasis @ 02:01, 25 Kislev 5777 / 02:01, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

User:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova)

 * Attack page. Full of false accusation, blatant mischaracterizations, assumptions of bad faith, etc.
 * User:Justanother, who created the page was most recently blocked for: "Violation of WP:CIVIL, WP:DISRUPT and WP:NPA".  Smee 03:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Below is my response from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents where User:Smee posted this issue after not getting what she wanted from Tom Harrison. Again, proper use of my user pages to prepare a formal action. --Justanother 04:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Below is the entire exchange from Tom Harrison's talk page. As you can see Tom recognized my draft for what it was, preparation for a formal action on User:Smee. My comment below sums up my position. Thank you. --Justanother 01:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Your recent speedy deletion
 * You recently speedily deleted Editor review/Anynobody, saying at WP:ANI: "I have speedy-deleted Editor review/Anynobody as an attack page."  I would appreciate it if you would do the same for another attack page, User:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova).  Thank you for your time.  Yours, Smee 19:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
 * I don't see complete similarity - it looks to me like preparations for an RfC, but I could be missing something. You might nominate it for deletion with a, or take it to misc. for deletion.  Talk 20:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Smee 00:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
 * Hi Tom. Thanks for your help with the phony Editor Review. Yes, you are right, that is the beginnings of an RfC or ArbCom on User:Smee (formerly Smeelgova). Certainly my user space is the appropriate place for me to work on it. It goes without saying that those are charges against Smee that I intend to pursue. Another editor has already added his experience. After Smee's promise to reform and as a sign of good faith (please see my User Talk) I have put it on hold. If I see a turnaround then I will save it off-wiki and delete the page. I must say, however that, so far, reviews are mixed on Smee. A couple positives but a few negatives too including misrepresentation on my talk page and her unwillingness to accept that I will not delete the page until I see some change. She very much wants the cart before the horse. But I remain hopeful. Thanks for your time. --Justanother 01:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep - my user page, proper and allowable use as described above. Thank you. --Justanother 04:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Justanother is applying a double standard


 * If one applies WP:AGF on Justanother he is mistaking this User:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova) for a WP:RFC.

He insisted on changing what I had originally placed there (just a quote without identifying who said it) to identify himself: diff line 15. He stated it wasn't fair for me to do that without providing context, I advised him that the context didn't make him look good and doing so would probably bring a more negative perception of him. He had it removed via WP:ANI when I refused to source it and thus turn it into an insult rather than an example of WP:NPA. I then returned it to my page, with sources, and still he pressed to have it removed.
 * However it is difficult to assume good faith on an issue like this after he insisted I remove an encounter I had with him from my user page.


 * A good faith editor would realize that if an unsourced quote is an example of a baiting personal attack, this page is a series of them.


 * If he wants a WP:RFC so be it, but this page should be deleted and based on his recent experience he should know it. Anynobody 04:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Also please note he had a WP:ER I initiated on my behavior regarding him deleted as an attack page. Frankly since the request was for comments about me, I really don't see how he could justify it as an attack. Anynobody 04:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's perfectly reasonable for Justanother to request arbitrarion or comments on Smee, and it is very much necessary that such a request be worked on before it is submitted.  However, if this doesn't turn into an actual request soon (say, within the next two weeks), I might view the situation differently.  Currently, the page has only be in existence for about 3 days.  Mango juice talk 13:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Moot - I thank all the editors here for their input. As a sign of good faith and in the hope that User:Smee can make her promised changes in behaviour, I have my draft RfC/ArbCom User:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova), and User talk:Justanother/Smee (formerly Smeelgova) --Justanother 20:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this sign of good faith. Smee 21:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.