Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Kirjtc2/Malls

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Personally, I believe a redirect would be pretty pointless, but I'll leave it to editorial discretion. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Kirjtc2/Malls


Long abandoned userspace draft. Untouched in 4 years, user has almost no edits since 2007. Nothing to see here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does saying "Nothing to see here," not generally make people suspicious? :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:33, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and make a Redirect to List of shopping malls. If followed, the user can find List of shopping malls in the United States and List of shopping malls in Canada in the list.  This was a perfectly reasonable draft work for mainspace, but is superceded.  No need to delete, unless we decide that it is likely an unattributed copy, perhaps from the previous two articles, although the nature of the content is not usually considered creative.  40,116 bytes were saved in a single edit without a summary or talk page comment.  All subseqeunt edits are minor.    --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Tell me what sense it makes to redirect userspace to article space. There is nothing worth keeping here, even as a redirect. WP:LOSE doesn't hold water. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 20:12, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The redirect serves as a small courtesy to the user or some other reader of his userspace. The user may check back without loging in, and he or others may not check the user talk page.  True, the deletion log will point to this MfD discussion, but multiple mouse clicks would be needed, too many for somone who happens to really be looking for this old content, a list of malls.
 * The most important deletion reason to me is that the page is a content fork of superior mainspace content, meaning that any future use of the page creates WP:copyrights hazards. So the page should be deleted.  Checking incoming links, I find the origin of the page is explained here: Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_25.  It's a copy-paste from about-to-be deleted content.  More reason to delete.  But separate from all of that, it remains possible that someone may come to the page looking for information on malls.  Redirects are cheap.  And there is absolutely nothing wrong with a userspace to mainspace redirct.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I still think your argument holds no water whatsoever. You're still arguing WP:LOSE and WP:ITSUSEFUL. There's no history to merge; the original article from the AFD you linked to was deleted, and List of shopping malls in the United States was started by someone else about a year before the list you linked to. And I really don't think that anyone searching for a list of malls would type in someone's username first. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 22:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I am arguing the Principle of least astonishment. Anyone lookng for this page, for stuff on malls, is better taken to the list of malls top article, better than taken to a "this page was deleted" page.  I am agreeing with deleting the content.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Your argument makes no sense. Why would they go to this page if they're looking for malls? It has no inbound links and a name that no one would ever think to type in. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Because they remember making this page years ago. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ludicrous on its face. Kirtjc2 hasn't been here for years, and the lack of edits indicate that no one else remembers this page. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Small courtesies and erring on the side of assuming that past editors will return. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete basically compiled in 2006, when it was described as being 'woefully incomplete'. Very stale now. No sensible reason to redirect. -- Klein  zach  05:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.