Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Littleghostboo/Story (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. Commenters view this as a harmless bit of fun at least somewhat related to Wikipedia. RL0919 (talk) 18:08, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Littleghostboo/Story

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Blatant WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. Dorsetonian (talk) 12:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: raised following discussion WP:TH Dorsetonian (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep This looks like classic WP:DF material to me, indirectly improving the encyclopedia with humor to encourage people to stay at Wikipedia. I don't see any obvious policy violations on the page, unless I missed something in the skim. There has long been tolerance for this sort of thing so long as it's not the user's only purpose, IOW they have at least some work elsewhere. 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 13:57, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Neutral, but commenting I saw this discussion and thought, "Well, personally I don't really like Wikipedia being used for this kind of thing, but I certainly don't see why anyone would feel strongly enough about it to nominate it for deletion." However, noticing the "2nd nomination" in the page title I decided to look at the first nomination, to see what had been said. To my surprise, I saw that back in July 2011 I was the one who nominated it for deletion. Evidently over the course of 9 years I have become more tolerant of this kind of thing.
 * recently deleted the page under CSD U5 (Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host), but then restored it on request. That criterion explictly states that it applies only "where the owner has made few or no edits outside of user pages". What does "few or no" mean? On this occasion, the editor has made 321 edits in mainspace (not counting deleted edits) and another 149 edits elsewhere outside user space and user talk space. I think most if not all of us would regard that as more than "few or no edits", making the U5 deletion questionable. However, the editor has made almost twice as many edits in user and user talk spaces (836 edits) as all other edits put together, so one could say that the editor's main purpose here was not to contribute to the encyclopaedia, which is really what U5 is about. JBW (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll have to think on that. I agree that the spirit of not webhost is more about the editor's actions as a whole. I've never been a fan of edit count as a way of determining that, or really anything, since I can build an extensively off-topic userpage in one edit or 1000 with the same final result, so it's more of a case-by-case thorough analysis, which I don't really have the time for right now. The CSD crieria are supposed to be construed narrowly, so this is clearly not a U5. The other thing to consider is that the page has many edits by many different people over many years, I'm not quite sure I feel ok with saying this would be keep if in the userspaces of these other editors, but it's not a keep in your case. 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 15:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Quick link to the first nomination for future commenters Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Littleghostboo/Story. 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 15:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with you when you say that you don't feel happy about saying "this would be keep if in the userspaces of these other editors, but it's not a keep in your case". I have never been really comfortable with the way that U5 discriminates between editors with and without contributions outside user space, even though I can see why it was set up that way. JBW (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per Department of Fun, it's appropriately in userspace as an essay on Wikipedia, and the IP editor. Doug Mehus T · C  21:34, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This is clearly aimed at Wikipedia sand Wikipedians, and is a humorous way of discussing and dealing with Wikipedia addiction. As such, it is not a No-web-host situation. Nor is this doing any harm, and the many and varied contributors make this very different from the usual U5 page. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per others. 129 different editors have decided this is a way they want to engage in to foster community. Assuming they're not all here just for this, I see no problem with this being in userspace. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 00:42, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , See? I'm not a total deletionist of userspaces. I !voted "keep" as well because it's harmless, and the editor is still at least semi-active on Wikipedia. Doug Mehus T · C  00:48, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.