Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Omghax111


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete all. — xaosflux  Talk  04:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Omghax111 and subpages
personal essay not related to wikipedia editing. Ironholds 16:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete this and all subpages, listed at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Omghax111. Per WP:NOT. The user has just made four minor edits outside these pages and doesn't seem to be inclined to contribute. All the other nominations may be merged here. -- Cena rium  (talk)  01:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect all to User_talk:Omghax111. On the talk page, give a personal bit of advice, but do not delete any contributions without first trying to be nice.  Tell him about myspace.  Tell him he is welcome to contribute, etc, but deleting his history of contributions is counterproductive.  Do not assume that he will remain disinclined to contribute productively in the absence of compelling evidence.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Being nice to a user doesn't mean we shouldn't strictly apply our policies when there's no reason not to. Inappropriate userpages are deleted, redirecting precisely doesn't remove the content so it doesn't meet our policies. The user can request a copy of a deleted page anyway. I stand on my opinion that the user doesn't seem to be inclined to contribute, but I didn't say that it will remain this way, you're misinterpreting. Cena rium  (talk)  13:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to point out to Smokey Joe that he Omghax111 hasn't edited anything in almost a month and his contributions consist only of this and 4 mainspace edits. I dont think he's going to contribute at all, nevermind constructively. Iron<b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 16:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If he isn't going to edit again, then converting to redirects achieves the same thing. Server space isn't an issue.  Page histories aren't trawled by search engines.  Assuming that he will *never* contibute again is a pretty big assumption.  Assuming that he'll never be contructive based on this short period of edits is bitey.  Redirecting would be uncontroversial and would achieve the same result; in comparison listing at MfD is a bigger waste of time and space.  Being nice usually *does* mean being less than strict.  Expecting new users to know thay can, and know how to request undeletion is a tough position.  It's also bitie, because you are putting the newcomer in the subservient position of having to ask for what the rest of expect - the ability to review our past contributions.  Also note how much effort you went to without ever talking to the user or pointing him to friendly explanation of the problem.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If that would be that easy... But it's not, a user can revert, copy the text etc. Many users have been blocked for edit warring over this, and the amount of drama created is huge. Deletion is generally a better option in the end and it's a clear application of our policies. MfD is here for a reason, blanking is not satisfying in most cases, experience tells this. Wikipedia is a community, MfD decisions are communal, and while we shouldn't assume that the user will never come back editing (constructively or not), we shouldn't assume the opposite either and shouldn't base our decision upon this. Note also that the user has been notified about these discussions and invited to participate, and I left a general comment on WP:NOT#MYSPACE on the talk page of the user. Cena rium  (talk)  22:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect all per Smokey. Cenarium is way off in thinking that deletion is the only way to satisfy our polices. The vast majority of page versions that break our polices are edited, not deleted. And Ironholds should be slapped with a big fish for his comment to Smokey, suggesting that his argument holds no merit based on his mainspace edits. -- Ned Scott 06:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ..what? I was talking about Omghax111's edits, not SmokeyJoe's. <b style="color:#D3D3D3">Ir</b><b style="color:#A9A9A9">on</b><b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 10:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * oops, my bad. -- Ned Scott 05:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I could say the same that you are "way off" thinking that blanking or redirecting a page will satisfy our policies, but this kind of comment really doesn't help. As a matter of facts, in these two cases, the history is not deleted and so can provide the content, thus it doesn't satisfy WP:NOT. As I said above, it can also lead to dire situations. I also said that we're not restricted like in other namespaces, article space especially, where selective deletion of inappropriate content is unfeasible, except in particularly bad cases. In this case, deletion seems to me to be the best option. Cena rium  (talk)  13:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * When we're a wiki, yes, changing the page, rather than full deletion, is satisfying policies. The only case where it doesn't is when there's personal information that someone wants removed, etc. I understand that you think deletion is best, given that we don't have the same restrictions that normal articles do, but that doesn't make it the only option. -- Ned Scott 05:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete this and all subpages, listed at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Omghax111, Wikipedia is not a free webhost. --Stormie (talk) 04:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all per NOT policy. — Athaenara  ✉  23:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree to all of the following: <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 15:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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