Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Oren neu dag/my userboxes/Coming of Eurabia

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  no consensus. ‑Scottywong | [express] || 08:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

User:Oren neu dag/my userboxes/Coming of Eurabia

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The image used is a flag invented by the template creator as part of a conspiracy theory about Europe being taken over by Muslims. I think this is pretty openly discriminatory and Islamophobic.

Also, - toned down a fair bit, but the conspiracy theory angle and the images mean it should still be deleted.

Relevant guideline is WP:UBX:
 * Userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive.
 * Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise, opinion pieces on current affairs or politics, self-promotion, or advertising.

This also comes under two policies. no personal attacks:

...some types of comments are never acceptable:
 * Abusive, defamatory, or derogatory phrases based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, age, religious or political beliefs, disabilities, ethnicity, nationality, etc. directed against another editor or a group of editors. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse.

...and WP:Civility: The following behaviours can contribute to an uncivil environment: [...]
 * (b) personal attacks, including racial, ethnic, sexual, disability-related, gender-related and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities

Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 12:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

*Mixed The image and name should be replaced as it is pretty blatantly supporting the Eurabia conspiracy theory (as well, it seems to conflate being against Islamism and conspiracy theories) however I am not sure how I feel about the userbox itself. I do think that being against religious fundamentalism and fascism is a good and legitimate ideology, but it does seem to be pretty anti-islam in its tone and name. Not sure how I feel. If it is the only anti-fundamentalism userbox of its kind, then *weak keep, otherwise *weak delete. realsanix (Hello!) 14:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I do not share the opinions expressed by the nominator or the subject. However I do not see an issue with the user box or the statements. In the same way that I do not think we should erase the pages of those who proclaim support for BLM. Lightburst (talk) 13:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak delete After thinking about this more, I vote to delete it as its title and image promote islamophobic conspiracy theories, but I feel mixed about the second one, as I find the general idea inoffensive, but again the "Eurabia" aspect keeps me from voting keep. I don't know. realsanix (Hello!) 20:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. I am in favor of someone creating a major discussion on political userboxes, and if they are good for Wikipedia or not. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.