Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Otolemur crassicaudatus/Userboxes/RAAN

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. (non-admin closure) JJPMas ter 22:50, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Otolemur crassicaudatus/Userboxes/RAAN

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Judging from the information I could find on the internet, RAAN is a violent anarchist (non-)organization. It promotes rioting and violence in pursuit of their goals, see. extreme examples being: It appears to violate WP:UBCR to have a userbox that promotes an entity that seeks to firebomb police cruisers and harass people. Chess (talk) (please use&#32; on reply) 00:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "RAANistas in Lexington, Kentucky firebomb a parked police cruiser in the middle of the night and release a communiqué describing the action as "one of the most satisfying moments of my life", after the commission of which a "victory joint" was smoked."
 * "Canadian supporter of RAAN in Fredericton, New Brunswick overhears a man in a coffee shop discussing his career as an employee for "anti-terrorism" agencies and an intent by CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) to investigate and infiltrate the Red & Anarchist Action Network in Canada. The man is followed, photographed, and eventually questioned regarding his role as a government spy. The brief interview is captured on video, and is generally regarded as exemplifying the kind of general lack of knowledge that repressive bodies have of anti-capitalist networks."
 * Keep Seems relatively harmless to me. The fact that the light damaging of a police car door is the most "violent" act you could dig up is pretty telling. It seems like this is mostly just a hub for people to write in about petty vandalism and ideology. Who cares? Parabolist (talk) 00:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * So we're allowing userboxes promoting firebombing police cruisers? That doesn't sound like "light damaging of a police car door". Chess (talk) (please use&#32; on reply) 01:42, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * YODADICAE👽 01:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I linked it in the nomination. Here it is again: Their very own website says RAANistas firebombed police cars. I fail to see how advocating for an organization that likes firebombing police car isn't implicitly promoting firebombing police cars. Chess (talk) (please use&#32; on reply) 02:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, the userbox doesn't say "this user supports firebombing police cars" or any cars. And again, by your logic the ubx i linked previously should be deleted since they largely supported lynching the (then) vice-president and speaker of the house of the United States. YODADICAE👽  04:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The glaring problem with your argument is that the infobox says nothing about bombing police cruisers. Would you propose to delete infoboxes supporting the U.S. Army Air Corps that atomic bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing thousands of innocent infants and toddlers, and hundreds of thousands of civilians? Or is your indignation selective? Cullen328  Let's discuss it  01:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NOTCENSORED. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * keep by this logic, we should get rid of since you know, this happened and resulted in 6 deaths.  YODADICAE👽  01:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Would we delete an infobox supporting the United States Armed Forces, which has committed acts of violence many orders of magnitude worse than this tiny group? I think not. The motivation for this nomination seems to be to eliminate infobox support for anarchism from Wikipedia. I am not an anarchist and I disagree quite forcefully with that political philosophy. But I oppose attempts to erase infoboxes that express support for one political philosophy, unless we eliminate every one of them. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  01:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Fully agree with User:Cullen328. --Bduke (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I do not agree with deleting political userboxes except in the most extreme circumstances; this is not one of them. Zoozaz1 talk  22:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Cullen328. Unless glorifying nazism, people should be free to express their political or social views. — kashmīrī  TALK  13:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - as people are free to express their political or social views. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep as I don't think this is so inflammatory that it warrants deletion. To quote the userpage guidelines: "Acts of violence" includes all forms of violence but does not include mere statements of support for controversial groups or regimes that some may interpret as an encouragement of violence. —  csc -1 02:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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