Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Phat Lemur/Sandbox




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Phat Lemur/Sandbox
Per WP:NOTWEBHOST. The subpage is not being constructively used to contribute to the encyclopedia. –blurpeace (talk) 01:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: What's it supposed to be anyway? -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 01:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless waste of server space. --Coffee //  have a cup  //  ark  // 02:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep allowable use of Sandbox. In a sense, one could argue that all sandboxes are a waste of server space, but that is not a valid reason for deletion. Collect (talk) 20:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Aren't most sandboxes (that I've seen anyway) used for experiments or edits on a long-term basis, so that someone can't come along and mess it up on the public sandbox? -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 20:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not required by WP precedent. As long as the material does not violate specific policies (no personal attacks, commercial use, etc.) sandboxes are userspace.  See also the discussions on "userfication." If we require thn only articles which would be allowed in mainspace could be in userspace, the concept of userspace would be sans meaning. Collect (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment, apparently an archive of an article deleted by AFD. Compound WP:UP into the nomination. –blurpeace (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * See essay WP:UFY etc.  See also any search in WP-space for "userfy."   Userfied articles are not considered improper copies.  Deleted articles are frequently placed in userspace.   Collect (talk) 23:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you read the link? Long-term archives of deleted articles are discouraged by our guidelines. –blurpeace (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Blurpeace, can you link to the relevant AfD discussion? Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Apologies. Apparently the article was nominated, but closed per speedy deletion. –blurpeace (talk) 14:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak delete I'm reluctant to delete a user's sandbox, but it looks like this is a clear-cut violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Amazingly enough, this sandbox has material which may well be of interest to people in the future studying digital remastering of film. This data is not readily found elsewhere, to be sure. Image of credits is not logically a copyright violation (it is data, not related to creation of the work).  Hence a strong reason not given above. Collect (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has deemed by consensus that the article is not suitable for inclusion, thus the sandbox became a policy violation. User space should not be used as a substitute for main space articles, or preferred versions of them. –blurpeace (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And then userfication is meaningless -- as any article userfied then is automatically a policy violation? There is no requirement for notability in userspace.  And Catch-22 is a poor reason for deletion.  If an article is not properly in mainspace, that does not meean it is automatically deletable from userspace. Collect (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "thus the sandbox became a policy violation [after aging one year]." There have been a few images removed from the sandbox as copyright violations, BTW. –blurpeace (talk) 14:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep If this data were textual it might even be a valid list article of some sort. We shouldn't delete it just because it's unusual.  It may be useful at some point for the encyclopedia. Gigs (talk) 15:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article was attempted and deleted. A list would be implausible. What would its name be, "List of IMAX titles with DMR team credits"? The headers contained are unlikely to ever be useful. –blurpeace (talk) 21:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I would vote Keep if Phat Lemur was still active, because I believe people should be allowed to keep copies of articles they've written in their userspace. But he hasn't edited since December 2008.  -- Soap Talk/Contributions 22:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete On one hand it is a user subpage sandbox, however I do agree that it conflicts with WP:NOTWEBHOST.  IShadowed  ✰  22:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.