Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Randy Kryn/In the Shadow of Keep

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Speeky keep. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 21:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

User:Randy Kryn/In the Shadow of Keep

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This is userspace was created specifically in the last few days in an attempt to subvert the Menē Inc. Afd at Articles for deletion/Menē Inc. by WP:BLUDGEONing the discussion. This essay was only a couple of days ago. It is an attempt to ignore established process, completely ignores established consensus and policy. Its rationale is essentially an emotive appeal ignore policy. It is pile of junk.  scope_creep Talk  18:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Without commenting on the essay's viability, I politely encourage the nominator to withdraw this MfD. It appears that the nominator and the creator of the target page are involved in a dispute regarding the aforementioned deletion discussion. Nominating an editor's userspace page for deletion while involved in such a dispute is likely to escalate the conflict and may be interpreted, rightly or wrongly, as retaliatory. Resolve this through standard dispute resolution, and then details such as this page can be addressed by uninvolved editors. Thebiguglyalien  ( talk ) 19:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Question: Is this the same essay which User:Randy Kryn created in January 2022? This is the version which was already in userspace before the linked AfD was instituted. Am I missing something obvious? BusterD (talk) 19:11, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't know. If it needs to be closed I will do it. The reason I posted it, it is an appeal to emotion instead of established consensus.   scope_creep Talk  19:25, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think User:Thebiguglyalien's suggestion is a prudent one to consider. I can read your unhappiness but the nomination statement has some contentious and at least partially incorrect observations. Users (especially active ones) are usually given wide latitude in how to utilize their userspace. I feel awkward providing such feedback, I have the utmost respect for all the editors linked here. BusterD (talk) 19:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well, I became aware of this by way of the AfD, so I guess there can be unintended consequences. But in any case, this is a deletion decision about an essay in user space. Essays do not have to represent consensus, and material in user space even less so. An editor's supposed motivations for having written the essay are irrelevant to the decision to keep or delete. If someone else wants to write another essay to rebut this one, that's probably the best choice. But no valid, policy-based reason has been given for deletion. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, for the same reasons as outlined eloquently by . No matter what happens with the Mene Inc. article and the related AfD, this user's essay ought not to be deleted in what might be seen by some as 'retaliatory'.. TY — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 21:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Nomination withdrawn   scope_creep Talk  21:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.