Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rev. Michael S. Margolin/Sinagogue of Satan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. There is consensus to not host further the former article in userspace. With respect to the userpage itself which hasn't been part of the nomination, concerned editors may want to wait with an MfD for Rev. Michael S. Margolin to consider some concerns raised here. Tikiwont (talk) 09:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Rev. Michael S. Margolin/Sinagogue of Satan
Version of a page deleted by AFD in January 2006. Created in user-space and somewhat expanded, but has been untouched for over a year. Since user-space versions are intended as way to prepare for eventual promotion to a full-fledged article and not as a way to dodge deletion, it's time--past time--that this be judged: he's had nearly 3 years, so make the case. CalendarWatcher (talk) 02:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete spammy junk. User:Rev. Michael S. Margolin should also be deleted. JuJube (talk) 05:11, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - clear attempt to get publicity (both pages end up in top 6 on Google when you search for either Michael Margolin or Sinagogue of Satan). dougweller (talk) 06:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, but wait the full 5 days before closing I e-mailed the user in case he had forgotten about the article. Maybe he forgot to update the article, and he can come up with better sources after 3 years. Nvm, he's active, and Sinagogue_of_Satan was speedied multiple times even after this failed DRV. --Enric Naval (talk) 08:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Vanispamcruftisement. Agree with JuJube that User:Rev. Michael S. Margolin should be Mfd'd as well -- Flewis (talk) 10:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Agree. User page should be Mfd'd as well. dougweller (talk) 11:11, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note to Enric Naval User is still an active contributor, his last edit was yesterday, he last updated his user page in September when he added another Youtube video of himself. dougweller (talk) 11:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I hadn't noticed --Enric Naval (talk) 22:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Rev. Michael S. Margolin (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Brown, Seth (2004). Think You're the Only One? Oddball Groups Where Outsiders Fit In. Barnes and Noble, pages 100-101. ISBN 0760757089.
 * Footage of Michael Margolin on Out & About with Roger Martin Episode #157 Angels Among Us / Pagan Day Festival.
 * Michael Margolin / Sinagogue of Satan Interview with Bob Ferguson of the League of Independent Satanists.
 * Michael Margolin / Sinagogue of Satan Interview with the Australian Grand Lodge.
 * And this means what to us? JuJube (talk) 00:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * In the email I got it asked for third party sources so I gave you some. What do you want exactly? I can understand wanting to deleate the article that an editor made for me but why my user page?Rev. Michael S. Margolin (talk) 01:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * about the user page: USER "Your userpage is for anything that is compatible with the Wikipedia project. It is a mistake to think of it as a homepage (...) lso a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working". It is not for pages explaining how good we are, talking about ourselves on third person (otherwise, I would have already done such a page for myself :D ) --Enric Naval (talk) 02:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding. Cabahn not a member or friend of mine made that sinagogue of satan page {Read it's talk section and history} and Marvin Sotelo who is a member of mine made the user page {Again read the talk page and history}. As far as wikki projects I'm in the left hand path group and edit and maintain articles on Satanism and I'm me. I also help with research and maintaing a non biased pov of those articles.Rev. Michael S. Margolin (talk) 02:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete not a webhost for maintaining deleted material. Verbal   chat  13:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I think the idea of deleting Michael's user page is ridiculous. Even though I realise that it's the Wikimedia Foundation, not Michael, that owns the user page - and that there are guidelines as to what you can have on your user page - I think deleting his page would be incredibly trivial. My user page contains a paragraph about me personally, that has fuck-all to do with Wikipedia: want to delete that, as well? What about every userbox that does nothing but open the reader's eyes to the person in question? If anything, it helps promote a friendly atmosphere by letting others know a little about the person. What will deleting his user page achieve? ≈  The Haunted Angel  21:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove advertising and someone's use of Wikipedia as a free web-host for promoting themselves, perhaps? --CalendarWatcher (talk) 21:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.