Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Shakescene/sandbox2

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 11:00, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Shakescene/sandbox2


This appears to be an old revision of The Bronx. Delete per WP:UP, that says that users aren't allowed to keep old versions of content. Also, it has been abandoned by its creator since 2008 July 22. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Stale sandbox of active user. I have blanked the page, so there is no more need to delete. --Surturz (talk) 07:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:UP, which states: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content. Private copies of pages that are being used solely for long-term archival purposes may be subject to deletion."

Because this page violates WP:UP and WP:NOTWEBHOST, this page should be deleted. Cunard (talk) 18:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The creator wrote: "Colfer2's July 7th revision". WP:UP dissuades users from hosting "old revisions" after an extended period of time. Blanking would not rectify this. Cunard (talk) 18:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the logic. Where is the harm in leaving it blanked? --Surturz (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The page already exists at The Bronx. After the edit by Colfer2 was reverted by Shakescene, Shakescene "restore[d] or reject[ed] individually" the changes. After three years, the page has served its purpose and now can be deleted. If Shakescene participates in this discussion and explains why the content is still relevant or useful, I am willing to support retention. Cunard (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You have not answered my question. Where is the harm in leaving the page blanked, as opposed to deleted? Blanking is more polite and only involves two editors. MfD is more aggressive and involves everyone who has watchlisted MfD. --Surturz (talk) 01:05, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your question presupposes that I have said this page is harmful. I have not. A community discussion about the merits of a user page is better than aggressively and unilaterally taking action on a page. A community discussion may uncover evidence the nominator failed to see: a copyright violation, a sourced draft about a notable topic with no corresponding Wikipedia article, an unsourced non-notable BLP, or a content fork. An unsourced non-notable BLP or a copyright violation should be deleted. A sourced draft about a notable topic should be moved to mainspace. My primary arguments for deletion are that 1) the page has served its purpose and 2) blanking does not overcome the WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:UP concerns because the page remains accessible in the history. Because the content in this page is accessible in the article's history—in this revision—there is no need to retain this page. Cunard (talk) 02:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:UP. Hut 8.5 20:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Maintaining wholesale copies in is a menace to good copyright compliance, and can confuse readers.  Blanking such content on discovery is usually fine, especially where the user is long inactive.  As the user is active, the ideal thing would be for him to request deletion using ((tl|db-u1}}.  If there is really an interest in "Colfer2's July 7th revision", he is free to link to that version.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.