Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Shivrajsinh chudasama/Chudasama shivrajsinh

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. Inactive userpage blanked applied as an editorial decision separate from this close. JohnCD (talk) 10:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

User:Shivrajsinh chudasama/Chudasama shivrajsinh


Non-English and random nonsense in sort of English. Better to delete this then keep it hanging around. Legacypac (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - There is zero problem with non-English in userspace. The English portions are not nearly nonsense, they seem to passably-written accounts of Indian clan histories. Just because it has lots of foreign names doesn't make it nonsense. Honestly, unless this is copyvio, someone obviously worked very hard on this and I find it a bit astounding that the nom's reaction seems to be "Don't understand it, so screw it. Speak English." you say it's better to delete this than leave it - can you elaborate why? A2soup (talk) 20:14, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You rudely misrepresent my point and paint me as suffering from English disease. Within my home we can speak 5 languages and I'm working on Spanish now. Perhaps you forget this is English Wikipedia?
 * Why delete? The "English" parts are so badly written that it is a TNT situation. There are no sources. Are you going to translate it and clean it up? Legacypac (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if I was rude in my comment. I was mostly surprised by you calling the English portions "sort of English" and "nonsense" - do you really think that? And how is the presence of non-English relevant at all? This encyclopedia is in English; userspace is not the encyclopedia, it is people's personal drafts - they should be allowed to draft in whatever works for them. WP:TNT is used to get rid of articles that are such a mess that it would be better for someone else to write them from scratch. This makes sense in mainspace, maybe in draftspace, but not in userspace, since this page is not forcing anyone to improve it rather than start their own version. Userspace drafts are not judged by WP:V unless they are hoaxes. I am not going to work on it since I have very little background in Indian history and also little time, but a keep !votes are not contingent on the !voters personal willingness to improve the page (see WP:VOLUNTEER). I just don't see a reason for deletion, sorry. A2soup (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I can read Indian English words just fine and I stand by my point this is very poorly written. Dumping this here was the only activity ever  by the person who dumped it here - and that was in Jul 2012. If you get past your philosophical and incorrect view of userspace belonging to individuals and therefore untouchable, you might be able to see there is less than zero chance this page has any use or any potential use. Legacypac (talk) 19:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Any potential use for this subject would require a basic WP:TNT of the page itself and given the absolute amount of pure nonsense that permeates the Indian caste history articles, very good reliable sources are required and there is no evidence of them here. Even if the editor returns, and writes this in English, it will require a lot more work to even become something close to usable. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Inactive userpage blanked is preferable to deletion if there are bad faith assumptions to be made.  This disapproval of non-English in userspace is not good.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:30, 27 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.