Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Stainy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per user request (non-admin close) Beeblebrox (talk) 01:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Stainy
Appears to be a movie watching club being hosted on a Wikipedia user page. Users only contribs are to this page, does not appear to be related to Wikipedia in any way. WP:UP specifies that you should not have Games, roleplaying sessions, and other things pertaining to "entertainment" rather than "writing an encyclopedia", particularly if they involve people who are not active participants in the project. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I would argue that your reason for requesting deletion disregards one of the five pillars of Wikipedia in that "Wikipedia does not have firm rules." (Stainy (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC))

Your obtuse and pedantic officiousness does not contribute much to the ideals of the community of Wikipedia. This is my userpage, and as contributions from other ACTIVE users show, you dont really understand what "project" best defines this user. (Stainy (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)) — Stainy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

As one the of the people who has contributed to the User page for Stainy, I can say that I am also a regular contributor to wikipedia in general, thus negating the idea that we 'are not active participants in the project'.Avimonster (talk) 23:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Could one of you explain how this page relates to Wikipedia? It seems to be more about social networking than anything even vaguely related to an encyclopedia. "The project" is used in this context to generically refer to Wikipedia as a whole, not to any specific area. WP:IAR is my favorite Wikipedia policy, but you have not explained why an exemption should be made here. And Stainy, please lay off the personal attacks. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - this content is not really appropriate use of a user page, but my weak qualification is due to the user's account only having been created 5 days ago. To the user, pare down what you have on the page and contribute to other areas and you will be welcomed into the community as a contributing user.  --Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Abuse of the encyclopedia. This is something for Facebook or Myspace or a blog page (or even a Wikia site if those won't support the format). bd2412  T 00:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The userpage is there to allow users to express themselves, flag their interests and practice wiki formatting skills. As expressed in the article User page, this page is there to:
 * a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working
 * It is also good for experimenting with markup (that is, as a personal sandbox)

Perhaps if stainy was to add some additional content about contributions he wishes to make to wikipedia or areas of interest this page will cease to be so offensive to other users.Avimonster (talk) 00:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that it is offensive, it's that it's on the wrong website. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I'm becoming a little concerned that something is not entirely on the level here. I don't see any talk page messages between you and "Stainy" before or after you edited the page. How is it that you just happened to know about it and know what another user would want you to do to their page. It seems that this debate is the first time either of you has ever actually engaged in any conversation on Wikipedia, and you showed up one right behind the other. And the page is labeled "Avi's Shiksa Movie Club" and your name is Avimonster. I hope you are aware of what a dim view Wikipedia takes of sockpuppetry, it is considered an abuse of editing privileges to come into a discussion posing as two or three different people when there is really only one.Beeblebrox (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Beeblebrox... i assure you i ain't no puppet... check the IP addresses and the times between editing to confirm for yourself that it is impossible for me to have been in 2 places at one time... but you probably don't believe that do you. i mean after all what would wikipedia be without a goodhearted CONSPIRACY!!!!! Avimonster (talk) 01:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So, how was it that you came to edit the page, and that Stainy didn't mind or even seem to notice that you were editing their userpage, and that the page has what seems to be your name on it? Oh, and thanks for recomending I compare your edit histories. Your edits are spaced apart from one another by a few minutes a piece, never overlapping at all. Without dragging this over to WP:CHECKUSER that's all the hard evidence there is. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Beeblebrox, I would like to assure you that I did not intend my comment to be a personal attack in anyway. I was merely suggesting that your comments went against the fundamental idea of this being an area in which people could make contributions to a project, in this case the project being my out user page. Thank you for making my first post to wikipeda such a unfullfilling one and I assure you that it will be my last. I thoughroughly agree that this page hould be deleted as I can see that innofensiv little pages like this are so offensive to others. Kudos to you my friend. Have a nice day (Stainy (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC))

Further I would like to invite you to "drag" this over to "Checkuser". And please feel free to have my user removed as I am quite sure I will not be needing it anymore. (Stainy (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
 * So, I'm assuming you are Stainy, not logged in? Otherwise you seem to be responding to comments not specifically directed at you, it was Stainy that made the personal attack. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Once again I can only apologies for any offense you have chosen to take from my comments. I can assure you they were not meant to be a personal attack (Stainy (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC))

Keep... and when "Avi's Shiksa Movie Club" becomes an accepted cultural institution for the tracking and community based critique of both popular and emerging films, you will be kicking yourself in the same way that Australia kicks itself over it's treatment on the indigenous peoples. I argue that "Avi's Shiksa Movie Club" is a valid project and will become a viable and valid public nuisance. --Theodour (talk) 02:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin - this user has a grand total of fifteen edits to Wikipedia, four of which were in the making of the above comment. This suggests insufficient experience with the encyclopedia for this view to be credited. bd2412  T 05:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admins (there much more than just the one of you... are YOU all sock puppets?): Thanks for the number crunching discrediting my entire online existence. Most edits of incorrect information made my me have been done without logging in. So your argument is moot.  You are well on your way to becoming wikipedia admins, with all your valuable contributions to others user pages!  What a laugh.  Get a real perspective on life.  I hope your power hungry dreams of wikipedia admin status come real, I really do.  For me, I know can see the bickering bitchiness behind the scenes.  I've lost a little resepct for you all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theodour (talk • contribs)
 * In the future, please don't fear to sign your comments. There will be one closing admin, and since I'm involved in the discussion, I won't be the one to do it. bd2412  T 06:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought you were just making a joke. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Theodour You hadn't made any edits since July 2008. Your brief contribution history suggests that you usually don't participate in deletion discussions. What made you participate in this one at this specific time? --DFS454 (talk) 11:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Keep... Can I suggest that "The userpage is there to allow users ... practice wiki formatting skills" and therefor should be left alone while I "Learn the Wikipedia ropes"... (Stainy (talk) 03:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
 * Could you please directly answer these questions:


 * Was the IP user who commented above you not logged in? I see you have now re-signed those remarks so that one is answered.

I thought that would make things easier (Stainy (talk) 04:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC))


 * How is that User:Avimonster knew your page was there and edited it although you never had any contact on your talk pages?

I know avimonster in the real world. You remember what the "real world" is right? This does not make me a puppet, nor does it mean I have my hand up his backside, or am I pulling his strings (although I do find myself wondering now if you are just pulling my leg) (Stainy (talk) 04:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC))


 * If it is your page, why does it have Avi's name on it? Beeblebrox (talk) 03:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I have changed the name of the page to reduce your anger regarding this issue (Stainy (talk) 04:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
 * It would be helpful if you made (or had made) at least some measure of contributions to the encyclopedia, other than edits to your own user page and to this page. bd2412  T 05:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Delete Wikipedia is not a webhost, said users can do this on a variety of sites and this is not one of them. Stainy does not have any contributions besides the ones to his userpage and this MFD. We're here to build an encyclopedia after all.--DFS454 (talk) 22:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Your user page is not a personal homepage, nor is it a blog. More importantly, your user page is not yours. It is a part of Wikipedia, and exists to make collaboration among Wikipedians easier, not for self-amusement. Play these games on Facebook or somewhere. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  03:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * '''Delte per Orangemike, specifically: your user page is not yours. Spiesr (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Please delete this user page. I do not want to be a part of the "community" that has been opened up to me in just my first 36 hours of interaction with Wikipedia. Best regards to you all. (Stainy (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC))


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.