Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Subtropical-man/Pornographic actresses

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. The user is warned this is a violation of Wikipedia's attribution requirements, and is advised to read WP:COPYVIO so as to avoid further such issues. The Bushranger One ping only 08:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Subtropical-man/Pornographic actresses


Cut-and-paste archive of the texts of deleted articles and/or articles expected to be deleted. Simply the wrong way to do this. The cut-and-paste copying removes the edit history, so the CC-licensing attribution requirement is violated. Therefore, these copies can't be improved and returned to mainspace, even if a subject becomes notable. If the user wants to retain copies for an appropriate period of time, they need to follow the WP:USERFY process. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete incorrectly attributed. Spartaz Humbug! 08:37, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - users do not have access and preview to deleted articles (only administrators). Situation of PORNBIO changes every few months (see discussions). Articles who deleted now, for few months may be encyclopaedic. I need preview deleted articles to expansion of these articles. Nominator mistaken regarding the process. For example, for few months when these articles will encyclopaedic, will be restore on Wikipedia by administrators with history on changes and I add new data that have been created on my user space. Nominator, Hullaballoo Wolfowitz made ​​a mistake (and Spartaz which took into account wrong the opinion of Hullaballoo Wolfowitz), there are no errors on the history of changes. My changes add to articles as typical edition. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   09:04, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:COMPETENCE. Spartaz Humbug! 12:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * So? Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   12:18, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Cut and paste userfication breaks our license and means that the attributation for the edits gets lost. If you want the deleted articles, these can be moved into your userspace with the edit history for attributation purposes. Anything else is just not on. Please go to REFUND and ask for the deleted articles rather then doing this. see here Spartaz Humbug! 12:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note. PS. Besides that situation of PORNBIO changes every few months (see discussions), articles who deleted now, for few months may be encyclopaedic also for some time a person (pornstar) can meet the current requirements of PORNBIO, for example winning the prize (AVN Award, XBIZ Award, XRCO Award etc). There is a high probability that the articles will be restored and presently possible to develop these articles within own user page (I am a volunteer for this, this is my time and job, so). Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   12:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * PORNBIO is only going to become more restrictive as general attitudes to BLP sourcing harden up. This process has been ongoing for at least 3 years and shows no evidence of slowing. Thanks. Spartaz Humbug! 12:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * This will change because more and more users (and also people outside Wikipedia) consider new changes (new consensus) as stupidity. Now, tens of percent of pornstars does not meet the requirements of new version of PORNBIO. Maybe for month, maybe two will be a new discussion to restore to a previous version of PORNBIO. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   12:49, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You're not getting the point. This isn't about PORNBIO; this is about complying with the attribution requirements of WP:CC BY-SA and following the process established by WP:USERFY. You also don't seem to realize that the deleted articles aren't going to be irrevocably wiped out; if one of these performers becomes notable by winning an award in two years, the deleted text can be retrieved at that time. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 13:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No, you totally do not understand. It does not refer to CC-BY-SA or USERFY. If some of these performers becomes notable by winning an award or PORNBIO will be changed and some of these articles will be restored I will not create new articles! (copy/paste breaking history of changes). I quietly developed articles in private user page User:Subtropical-man/Pornographic actresses, when the article will be restored along with the history of changes, I add new data to existing article as typical edition (not as create new article). Here you can not say about violations of rules of CC-BY-SA or USERFY, this is nonsense. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   17:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unless you're rewriting these you don't need to keep them at all, As per the above just visit WP:REFUND. - →Davey 2010→ →Talk to me!→  17:47, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. And trout Spartaz for making up his own speedy deletion criterion. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:07, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:G12 is a real criterion. Who needs to be trouted now? — Keφr 08:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - obviously just a way to end-run around consensus and that fact that there are copies of articles deleted only today suggests the editor knows these are non-notable ad will likely be deleted. But this is absolutely the wrong way to go about it. If this were an index of userspace drafts it'd be a different story. But blatant cut-paste copies of deleted articles is a no-no. Stalwart 111  22:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * And people wonder why we have difficulty attracting female editors. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:30, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure how that is relevant to someone copying and pasting deleted items into their sandbox?  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


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