Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Supuhstar/Pranked

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. While some editors argue that this page should be kept, their rationales are rather weak, basically amounting to the opinion that this page is, all in all, pretty harmless; on the other hand, the delete !votes are firmly rooted in the relevant guideline, which states that the focus of user pages should not be social networking, or amusement, but rather providing a foundation for effective collaboration. In weighing the various lines of reasoning, as consensus is not a headcount, I believe that the rationales of the people !voting to delete are far more convincing. Salvio Let's talk about it! 10:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Supuhstar/Pranked


This page was linked from a fake "you have new messages" bar. Since you're not allowed to do that, this shouldn't exist either. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 03:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - As far as I can tell, the fake new messages bar isn't used in his userspace. What does link to this is that fake warning box on his user page, which seems fine to me. If I am wrong, and the new messages bar is somewhere in his userspace, it could just be removed. I don't really see why this page should be deleted.   Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, if any message bar pranking is currently going on it needs to be stopped immediately but saving this as a memento of the more wild west days does not hurt anyone. jorgenev 04:40, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed the fake "new messages" bar from his user talk page. I didn't realize the fake dialogue box on his userpage also links here. But isn't that still unacceptable pranking (not to mention completely ineffective on us Mac users)? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The fact that we (nice choice, by the way) don't get it doesn't mean others won't. Shall we go around removing all humor that someone might not get? :) Anyhoo, I don't really think that falls anywhere near unacceptable pranking.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:58, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This trite humor is outdated. When created it violated the editing guidelines and community consensus. There is no reason or basis to presume that this nomination will lead to the deletion of all humor pages. What distinguishes this page from acceptable humor pages is that the other humor pages do not endorse violating policies or guidelines. Cunard (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Cunard, I was attempting humor in mentioning that. Anyways, the discussion relates to fake "New Messages" bars; this is not in use as one any longer.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It is still in use: User talk:Supuhstar/Header. However, it doesn't matter whether the page is currently in use. As the remnant of policy-violating material, it should be deleted. Cunard (talk) 23:15, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems harmless. Crazynast 07:27, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The promotion of disruptive behavior is harmful. Cunard (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTMYSPACE and WP:UP. WP:NOTWEBHOST states: "The focus of user pages should not be social networking, or amusement, but rather providing a foundation for effective collaboration. Humorous pages that refer to Wikipedia in some way may be created in an appropriate namespace, however." There is no evidence that this page has provided a "foundation for effective collaboration". The second sentence might have saved this page for deletion, save for the fact that it is an implicit endorsement of the violation of User pages and should be deleted. 's comment in support of preserving policy-violating content as a "memento of the more wild west days" is faulty. Having matured past unacceptable simulation and disruption of the MediaWiki interface, Wikipedia should send this nonsense to the digital dustbin. Cunard (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * With fake message bars finally being cracked down on, the resultant gotcha pages are obviously no longer going to be useful. Whether it is directly harmful or not isn't the point, as the existence of thes epages has been shown to encourage copycats. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 14:27, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The page is not being used with the fake "New Messages" bar any longer; it is linked form something else on the user page.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The page's intent is clear: It endorses the violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Because it is prone to encourage "copycats" as thumperward mentioned above, retaining it is harmful. Cunard (talk) 23:15, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree that these silly games are no longer tolerated. As it contains massages from others, it might be sufficient to archive it, noting that these sorts of games are not to be encouraged.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTMYSPACE and WP:UP per Cunard. This has nothing remotely to do with writing an encyclopedia. -- Klein zach  08:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Kleinzach and Cunard covered it quite well.    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 15:42, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep It is linked to in a non–policy-violating manner (the dialogue box on his userpage), so it is semi-useful, and I don't think one humorous page in userspace hurts the encyclopedia enough to warrant deletion. If you really think it should be deleted, at least archive it since it has messages from other users. I do note that the fake new messages bars are still present at the top of his talk archives, so those definitely should be removed. jcgoble3 (talk) 18:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Both User:Supuhstar/Pranked and the dialogue box on User:Supuhstar violate WP:NOTMYSPACE. How do these two pages provide a "foundation for effective collaboration"? Cunard (talk) 23:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.