Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tempac3/sandbox

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was keep. (NAC) Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0  16:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Tempac3/sandbox


It is possible that the "original" user is still editing this and another sandbox, User:Tempac3/sandbox2, as an IP. But this is going nowhere. The original editor hasn't been around since last year and even then was really only making edits in these sandboxes. These are abandoned drafts, if drafts is even what they ever were. Drmies (talk) 02:46, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete both User:Tempac3/sandbox and User:Tempac3/sandbox2. removed the MfD tag from the first page on 06:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC) and from the second page on 06:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC), indicating that the user is aware of the MfD discussion. Because the user has chosen not to contest the contention that these pages violate WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:STALEDRAFT, I support deletion. Cunard (talk) 02:55, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While 's initial reticence did not help his case, he has now provided a valid rationale for retaining his drafts for use in his article work. Keep both. Cunard (talk) 17:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: despite the hullabaloo of Wikiquette assistance, the account nor the IPs have seen fit to weigh in, though one IP has been active. Drmies (talk) 17:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * These are abandoned drafts...


 * The first page was edited a month ago, the second page was an ongoing work when the tag was placed.


 * The original editor hasn't been around since last year and even then was really only making edits in these sandboxes.


 * I have edited Wikipedia outside of my userspace.


 * ...if drafts is even what they ever were.


 * Belittling language.


 * So I still believe the MFD tag was a provocation.


 * PS: I realize that some insults said at an inappropriate time can become a personal issue. I apologize for overreacting, combined with the lack of knowledge when I was a newbie. But maybe you should just close the ticket? This is indeed "going nowhere". Tempac3 (talk) 01:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * They haven't become a personal issue. Some editor calling me "some asshole" more than a half a year ago, I don't remember that, but your apology for that is nice. As for this MfD, you can believe what you will, but this is not a provocation (and your edits outside user space are known from your edit history: my point stands). There is nothing belittling about "if drafts is even what they ever were": it merely points out that it is unclear what this is a draft of. There already is a List of Russian inventions--one of your IPs is all over that history. And what is User:Tempac3/sandbox2? A list of guns, that's it. You need to look at WP:UPNO and explain how these pages have any purpose toward furthering the project. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 03:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * For the List of Russian inventions - the notes can be incorporated into the Timeline of Russian inventions. For the sandbox2 - I don't think it being a table makes it any less valuable (I'm rewriting the List of Russian weaponry to match other "List of Russian [...]" (artists, explorers, etc.) Tempac3 (talk) 11:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Obvious keep Why are we trying to delete this? Seriously, I don't get it. These are sandboxes, meaning the user should get a lot of leeway here, and they are geared to improving articles. I don't get it. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  12:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - User:Tempac3/sandbox is a private version of List of Russian inventions article maintained in userspace since July 2011 raising wp:STALEDRAFT‎. However, Tempac3 indicated above that he/she plans to migrate the userspace info to Wikipedia, so give user benefit of the doubt. Also I 'm kinda digging User:Tempac3/sandbox2. It's much clearer and informative than List of Russian weaponry. I suggest moving User:Tempac3/sandbox2 to article space so that others will find it and help improve it. Once in article space, the issue of merge can be raised, if needed, but the content will be there for all Wikipedians. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 03:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Editors should find better things to do than police userspace. --Surturz (talk) 12:45, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Surturz spammed this comment across several MFDs around the same time. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:53, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - the User seems to be actively working on it. I'm not sure to what end, but the draft is hardly stale. Achowat (talk) 15:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


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