Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TheStrayDog/Userbox Let's Go Brandon

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. Consensus is that the userbox is stupid but not evil. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

User:TheStrayDog/Userbox Let's Go Brandon

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Let’s Go Brandon is a troll/insult phrase meant to be understood as a euphemism for “fuck Joe Biden”. I cannot see this being used in a constructive manner, seems purely disruptive and possibly even constitutes an attack page. Dronebogus (talk) 14:32, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Has infiltrated popular culture. Unless Wikipedia writes down objective rules for politics in Userboxes on userpages, these things are best tolerated. Censorship battles are much worse. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. It does appear to be quite unconstructive, and may constitute an attack page. —Sundostund (talk) 02:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Wikipedia is not censored. And there are a bunch of userboxes against another politician, and per ATTACK, attack pages are "primarily to disparage or threaten its subject", which this does not. I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 06:22, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Uh, how is this not an attack page if LGB literally just means “fuck Joe Biden”? And WP:NOTCENSORED is completely irrelevant to userbox content. WP:OTHERSTUFF is also a terrible argument— just nominate the Trump boxes if you think they’re disruptive, which most of them aren’t. Dronebogus (talk) 06:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you cite an example of disruption of Wikipedia due to this userbox?
 * I don’t read this message, either version, as an attack, but instead as an expression of disapproval. SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:47, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That isn’t an argument. We don’t nominate boxes because of specific incidents of “disruption”, which is impossible to prove, but because of the broken window theory— if we don’t have some kind of basic standards eventually there’s going to be loads of far worse userboxes citing WP:OTHERSTUFF as precedent. Dronebogus (talk) 10:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I disagree. “It could disrupt” is very different to “it disrupts”.  This userbox will never disrupt anything, because it is already big outside Wikipedia. It may be insulting, but it is not trolling, and it is not disruptive to Wikipedia.  Userboxes are not required to be constructive. I think the broken window theory is disputed, a correlation, not a cause. Deleting this userbox will confuse userbox standards, not set them. The current stand exists, just lower than you seem to think is right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmokeyJoe (talk • contribs) 11:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There IS no standard. Every single userbox debate is case-by-case with a limited, non-binding reliance on precedent and the most likely deliberately vague limits set by WP:UBX and WP:UP Dronebogus (talk) 11:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The is a standard, just poorly documented and below your preference. SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:34, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Neutral. I personally think the whole "Let's Go Brandon" thing is a childish and ridiculous way of going about it. There are plenty of other ways (and I'm sure userboxes) of showing disapproval for Biden. I don't have a strong opinion though either way as the term is regrettably in popular culture now. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I really don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things whether or not this userbox exists. And it's in an individual's userspace, for which wide latitude is given. There's really no need for censorship.--WaltCip- (talk)  15:35, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think it's bad enough to warrant deletion. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is kind of childish, but that's the nature of memes. That's not enough reason for deletion. The meaning is kinda vague and Biden has jokingly endorsed the slogan at the White House correspondent dinner (which was held after the nomination), so obviously not an attack page. Also not polemic enough per NOTADVOCACY or UBCR to cause major disruption. Politrukki (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Waltchip CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep I could imagine this userbox being used humorously. Also, if Joe Biden himself has joked about the phrase, it probably shows this is just a humorous userbox now. 2601:647:5800:1A1F:A101:2C6F:57B3:C73D (talk) 00:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * How do we know that you are not that other IP? If you really don’t want to WP:Register, could you at least sign a nickname? SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.