Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tillman/Tim Ball

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Delete CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 12:41, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

User:Tillman/Tim Ball


WP:FAKEARTICLE. Was userfied after deletion at Articles for deletion/Amphora (band) (endorsed at Deletion review/Log/2011 January 3). Survived at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lucy Skywalker/Timothy Ball because it was is under active development (which soon ended as a short term minor development) but has since been abandonded and is untouched for over 6 months. Userspace should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content. duffbeerforme (talk) 05:08, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * My initial inclination is to delete because the editor hasn't been particularly active since the content was userfied and improvement seems unlikely. But I'd be interested in what he has to say. Stalwart 111  06:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Delete per the closing admin,, at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lucy Skywalker/Timothy Ball, who wrote: WP:FAKEARTICLE reads: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content. Private copies of pages that are being used solely for long-term archival purposes may be subject to deletion. Short-term hosting of potentially valid articles and other reasonable content under development or in active use is usually acceptable" Against that background, since User:Tillman/Tim Ball is under active development and is now properly attributed, I do not see a consensus here to delete it, and it can be considered allowable as "Short-term hosting of potentially valid articles and other reasonable content under development." Note, however, the words "short-term": it may be nominated for deletion unless within a reasonable time it is presented to WP:Deletion review or consensus is otherwise established that it can be returned to the main space because the reasons for deletion at the AfD have been overcome. JohnCD (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC) The article violates WP:FAKEARTICLE because: 1. The last edit to this page was on 29 November 2012‎. The userspace draft has not been edited for nearly eight months. 2. The user who is hosting this content wrote above: "I doubt I'd want to undertake the controversial job of another try at a wikibio of Tim Ball". 3. No one has stepped forward to work on the draft. The "delete" close of Articles for deletion/Timothy Ball was endorsed at Deletion review/Log/2011 January 3, where the closer wrote: "Deletion endorsed. This one has had me stumped for a good hour. It's a tough call and, if this article were not a BLP, it may have gone the other way. However, BLP concerns take precedent over just about everything in the interests of not causing any 'real life' harm to the encyclopaedia's subjects. With this and the notability – which even those advocating an overturn concede is marginal – in mind, I'm closing this as deletion endorsed. That said, I will make a standing offer to anybody who feels the subject is notable enough to sustain his own article to compile a draft version in their userspace. I (and hopefully NW) will be happy to review such drafts and consider moving them to mainspace. I'll oblige any good-faith requests for emails of the source code or userfication made on my talk page." If there are BLP concerns with the userspace, then that is another reason to delete this draft, which has not been worked on. Cunard (talk) 02:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts. I'm the user in question, and the history of this draft is given in the introduction to User:Tillman/Tim Ball. I'm not currently very active here, and I doubt I'd want to undertake the controversial job of another try at a wikibio of Tim Ball. But there's quite a lot of work in this draft, so it would seem better to move it there, in the hope that someone else may want to take it on, rather than deleting it. --Pete Tillman (talk) 19:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.