Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Travb/Why Gun-Barrel Democracy Doesn't Work


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. Despite myself and others arguing the opposite, 8D/3K (one of those unsigned) is a clear consensus to delete in this instance. Xoloz 04:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Travb/Why Gun-Barrel Democracy Doesn't Work
Personal essay. Wikipedia is not a free webhost.--Sean Black 02:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete this user has a history of using wikipedia as a platform for hate speech--Petral 02:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * There might be something useful here for some article, if presented in an WP:NPOV way. But I don't see that happening. As it stands now it's polemic. Wikipedia is not a soapbox Delete Lar 02:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "Examples of unrelated content include:
 * Extensive discussion not related to Wikipedia
 * Personal statements that could be considered polemical, such as opinions on matters unrelated to Wikipedia
 * Opinion pieces not related to Wikipedia or other non-encyclopedic material" (User page)
 * Three strikes, you're out. --Keitei (talk) 03:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Editor might well be working on an article about the essay that is the subpage's title, or its author. As it stands, this text is argumentative and flawed (from an encyclopedic NPOV); but it is neither absurd nor polemical.  There is no problem here at all. Xoloz 04:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as inherently POV. Could conceivably be turned into an article but would have to be gutted for NPOV and there is no indication of any such intent. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 08:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * NPOV doesn't apply in userspace, does it? Xoloz 16:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Mackensen (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to meta. There are similar essays living quite comfortably there. --Tony Sidaway 23:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep As per Xoloz, I'm not seeing what the problem is. Transwiki is an interesting proposal, but I'm not sure if meta is going to like this since it is unrelated to meta. Probably likely to get deleted there. I think WP needs to be liberal as to what it allows on userpages. RN 00:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "The problem" is pretty clearly elicudated above, and seems plainly obvious simply reading the page. I don't understand how you can't see that.--Sean Black 03:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Forgive me for being terse :) - As Xoloz points out, IIRC POV doesn't apply to userpages... and dictating what is acceptable on them besides outright violations (attacks, legal threats, etc.) is really risky business... I guess I'm willing to change my mind if someone can convince me otherwise. For me, as long as the thing at least concievably could be used in an encyclopedia article and/or is related to WP, it should be acceptable. (Speaking of which, if this is indeed deemed unacceptable, I wonder why User:Travb/Suing_phone_companies_for_handing_over_phone_records isn't MFD'd [well, I guess I can see how it isn't as political...]) RN 03:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. +Hexagon1 (t) 06:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete It is in userspace, but it's a long piece of POV/OR, and its talk page is pretty much a discussion space now, and wikipedia is not a blogsite. --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 14:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Unlike Travb's other hilarious subpages, this one does appear as if it could be useful in a article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avillia (talk • contribs)
 * Delete per nom. --Ter e nce Ong 05:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ral315 (talk) 21:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.