Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vctm64




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete - Peripitus (Talk) 09:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Vctm64
Totally unrelated to Wikipedia.. WP:NOTWEBHOST. There's not a clear guideline on wp:userpage related to this, but I think it's pretty safe to say that Wikipedia should not be a place to put up an allegation like this.

Tried explaining to user and asking politely to remove information, does not seem to understand.. See User_talk:Vctm64 Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

the accurance of sexual abuse by teachers is very much a part of a school's history.

User understands clearly - anything distastful is removed and victims of sexual abuse suffer in silence

that silence has cost me dearly and hindered my healing

What about the other victims? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vctm64 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Tried explaining to user and asking politely to remove information, does not seem to understand.. See User_talk:Vctm64 Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the same nomination as the above Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vctm64/Keira boys high. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Most of the editing appears to have been done by editors in the USA who know nothing about the school or the abuses students endured

Your deletions are hindering the healing of boys who were sexually abused and adds to our pain.

There are issues of excessive use of the cane molestation etc

the innitiation of new boys by students also forms part of the school history.

it grieves me that posts by other past students have been deleted

ok remove us from the main text but at least leave it in talk so past students can contribute to an accurate history of the school.

Where does one enter referances ?

eg if criminal charges were laid against the late Alex Day - Dept Librian in the fifties?

If the Police charged a retired teacher with molestation where would the referance go?

You appear to be unwilling to recognise that some teachers do abuse students. Would Court Case transcripts be acceptable? Are victim's statements to the Police acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vctm64 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC) thank you SmokeyJoe I have deleted the name of the retired teacher because he is alive and I do not want to compromise any criminal investigation. It is imperative that references to alleged sexual abuse of boys by a certain minority of teachers remains as other past students may have already located primary sources I am yet to find. Please note I was not the first to post these allegations. There are too many independant postings by annonomous contributors unknown to me. I am working through the Parliamentary transcripts which in Australia are called Hansard. Alex Day is dead. The Police don't charge a dead man His reputation around Wollongong exceeds what I as a child was aware. "teacher" or "a Librian" is unfair to the many dedicated and trustworthy teachers in the school. I am not on a soapbox. I lived in silence as a child and hitherto suffered in silence through most of my adult years. Child Sexual abuse is now recognised as existing in Australia. Our Prime Minister has apologised to two groups of survivors to date. (Vctm64 (talk) 01:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC))
 * Vctm64, I am afraid that it looks like you are "soapboxing". It doesn't matter how justified or right you are, we have a rule against this.  No, police reports are not OK for an encylopedia.  For sources, we want independent, third party, reputable coverage.  Did it make the newspapers?  Was there a final published report on the investigations?  If so, then start with them, and primary sources such as police reports (if published!) can be used to support the facts of the story.  This should probably be moved to User talk:Vctm64, and please stop dropping names.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:27, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per the reasons articulated in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vctm64/Keira boys high. Wikipedia is not the place to publish such information in the userspace; information of this nature could be placed in the mainspace if it were documented by multiple nontrivial reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 08:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vctm64/Keira boys high and User page: "avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia". Deletion of this user page does not constitute denial of the occurrence of sexual abuse of children, of its criminality, or of its repugnance. A desire to bring such crimes to light is to be commended, but unless the issue of child sexual abuse at Keira High School is covered in reliable sources, then Wikipedia is not the appropriate venue for such an effort. –Black Falcon (talk) 18:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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