Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Visitante


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was delete--Aervanath (talk) 12:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Visitante
Wikipedia is not a blog: User page created with the sole purpose to complain about "censorship" in es@wiki. User is clearly a single purpose account that has made no relevant contributions to English Wikipedia. Check also User:Visitante/Other text. --KveD (talk) 03:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC) KveD (talk) 01:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC) "This administrators (or censorers, wich will be the correct name) [...] They have converted "The Free Encyclopedia" into his personal dictatorship"
 * support deletion, this is being used as free webhost space as the account in more than 2 years made no improvement or edit to the encyclopaedia. -- m:drini 03:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment appears to be from a user expelled from Spanish Wikipedia, maintaining material relevant to his case that there was censorship, and the list of those for and against his expulsion? Is there a precedent in here for such material? I am not sure "webhost" is sufficient in itself for deletion. Collect (talk) 11:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Yes, the page is from an expelled user of es@wiki for violations of etiquette. But his user pages has no relevant material regarding his case, is an essay about censorship in Wikipedia, and in Spanish Wikipedia in particular. And this is the spanish RfD for es:Usuario:Visitante in which called "nazis" to other administrators. If Wikipedia is not a blog is not enough for deletion, this user page also enter in the categories Wikipedia is not a soapbox (not a place to put opinion pieces) and Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thoughts or personal essays. KveD (talk) 19:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Userspace is not the same as mainspace. Many user pages have "personal essays" and :original thoughts." Does the essay attack anyone personally against WP rules? Collect (talk) 11:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So we condone trolling by accounts with 0 edits and no intention other than to game the rules? -- m:drini 02:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm with drini here. If at the time of opening this mfd the account had useful edits in en@wiki or at least edits in the mainspace I would reach him in his user talk and politely ask him to remove the insults in his user page. But, seeing that the account has created with the sole purpouse of creating his userpage, had made no edits in mainspace and all of his edits refer to es@wiki I think that, If he want to libel es@wiki administrators he can do it through a blog or his personal website, not through other wiki. KveD (talk) 18:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You guys in the Spanish Wikipedia must have a very   thin skin. The user is criticizing the actions  of the administrators. A while ago an user posted in Jimbo Wales's talk page about the censorship and abuse of the Spanish Wikipedia administrators,  and guess what?, the user was blocked from the Spanish Wikipedia for asking for help in the English Wikipedia (1). This is a very bad precedent, users in the English Wikipedia should feel free to express their opinion about the Spanish Wikipedia without the fear of censorship from the Spanish Wikipedia administrators like you and Drini. This is not the Spanish Wikipedia, here the diversity of opinions is what keeps this project running. --J.Mundo (talk) 20:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't know about this. But I'm not here to discuss that. Right now, I'm here to discuss this. And let me say that one thing is censorship and freedom of speech and other thing is cross-wiki trolling. This is cross-wiki trolling.
 * I completly agree. -- Dferg (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I note that WP:NOTAFORUM states that "Personal essays on topics relating to Wikipedia are welcome in your user namespace ...." Whatever the point of this is, it is definitely related to Wikipedia, albeit mostly focused on the Spanish Wikipedia. (I can read enough Spanish to determine that this is a long, boring essay on the user's problems with alleged political censorship on the Spanish Wikipedia.) I realize that this editor has not edited here on the English Wikipedia for a long time, but given that (a) his page contains only Wikipedia-related content, (b) no effort was made to notify him of problems with his user page before nominating it for deletion, and (c) he wasn't even given notice of the nomination after it was made, my inclination is to allow the page to be kept. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Readded the mfd template and user warned. The first mfd template was probably lost during this. And yes, personal essays about Wikipedia are welcome in user spaces but if those essays don't include cross-wiki personal attacks. used his personal space to call some es@wiki admins mafiosos, despots, nazis and some other nice adjetives. KveD (talk) 12:15, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nowhere in this page the words nazis and depots are used. --J.Mundo (talk) 04:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me highlight: despots, mafiosos and nazis. KveD (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool gadget and everything, but I still can't find in the current edition where the word "nazi" is used. --J.Mundo (talk) 20:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that WP:NOT's encouragement of "personal essays on topics relating to Wikipedia" applies to editors who have such essays. I don't believe it was intended to cover users who merely post such essays without being actual editors. –Black Falcon (Talk) 04:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep-- Per WP:UP, "another common use is to let people know about your activities on Wikipedia, and your opinions about Wikipedia." I don't see any personal attack on this page except the opinion of an user about censorship and neutrality on es.wiki. --J.Mundo (talk) 04:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Kved. User has made no edits outside of userspace, no edits at all in almost three years, and the sole purpose of the account seems to be to comment/complain on activities in es.wikipedia. I think it is clear that this user never had any intention of being an editor of en.wikipedia. –Black Falcon (Talk) 19:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Personal essays are accepted in userspace as part of the leeway we give productive users in there. Since this user is not a productive contributor WP:NOT applies. - Mgm|(talk) 09:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, I agree with KveD, Drini and Black Falcon. In addition, an attack page is not tolerated elsewere and IMHO this page should be speedy deleted on sight. See WP:HUSH, WP:WPNOT. The page has been created with the single purpose to attack eswiki admins and his community. To finish, a quote from his UP (translated)

This is trolling and harrasment. Regards. -- Dferg (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.